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Re: Open Social

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Post by bityard »

input_sh wrote: post #49
mcny wrote: post #4

Now here is a controversial question... Can we have a free of cost top level domain? What are the actual costs associated with registering a domain? If let's encrypt can provide secure certificates free of cost, why can't a different no profit provide domains free of cost as well? It doesn't have to be pretty. It could be a UUID v7 stacked on top of another UUID v7 for all I care but it would be globally unique and a…

.tk used to be free and was the top ccTLD in the world by the number of domains registered. You can imagine what it was mostly used for. Facebook sued the operator (Dutch company called Freenom) for facilitating phishing and now we can't have that anymore.

.tk was widely known for taking back domains once they got popular and turning them into ad spam. That's how they made money "giving" the domains away for free: lead generation, basically.

Re: Open Social

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Post by knowtheory »

tetrisgm wrote: post #18

I feel very conflicted about this work. On one side I find these ideas extremely compelling. This is aligned with the Indie web body of work, that pictures anyone having a personal website of their own content and ownership over that. And this page an article are beautifully put together. On the other hand, we haven’t really seen a lot of developers adopting these standards for their own projects (like using this for…

There's still some more work to do to make the developer experience simple enough that it's a no-brainer for people to pick ATProto up in anger.

But there's a lot of work developing on that front, and the next 6-12 months will be super exciting to watch.

The longer story is that most people don't understand that ATProto is more than just Bluesky, and the usecases are wayyyyyy broader. That's going to take more time to play out in the market.

Re: Open Social

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Post by analogpixel »

ceayo wrote: post #30

Wow, I always imagined Activitypub to be the better protocol and AT a cheap knock-off, but reading this article made me realize at is, actually, way better - primarily because multiple programs can access the same identity. This is really a great feature to have! This article was a real mind-opener for me.

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Re: Open Social

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Post by swyx »

i'm interested in making a new social network on atproto. does anyone have resources to recommend where to start?

Re: Open Social

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Post by swyx »

evbogue wrote: post #14

Does this article mention anywhere that Dan is a former employee of Bluesky and I just missed that disclosure?

wait what? where does he work now?

Re: Open Social

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Post by fruitworks »

jerf wrote: post #43
mcny wrote: post #4

Now here is a controversial question... Can we have a free of cost top level domain? What are the actual costs associated with registering a domain? If let's encrypt can provide secure certificates free of cost, why can't a different no profit provide domains free of cost as well? It doesn't have to be pretty. It could be a UUID v7 stacked on top of another UUID v7 for all I care but it would be globally unique and a…

A free of cost TLD is probably not practical. There are some special things that go along with being a TLD and being in the public suffix list: https://github.com/publicsuffix/list If you drop the TLD part though, you can do whatever you want with any domain you want, up to and including handing out free subdomains to anyone who asks. As usual, though, if you try to do this, the dark internet will make you regret it…

Why can't it be a keypair like a .onion domain?

DNS is not a sybil resistance mechanism

Re: Open Social

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Post by verdverm »

danabramov wrote: post #80
steveklabnik wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have two choices of identity service: did:plc, which is, and did:web, which is not. In theory additional dids could come into existence too, those are just the two that blueksy supports at the moment.

That’s correct. PLC is being split into an independent entity but that is ongoing: https://docs.bsky.app/blog/plc-directory-org It’s worth noting that PLC can’t fake your data because each edit is recursively signed. So you can verify a chain of updates. However, PLC can in theory deny you service or ignore your updates.

it's def not doing that right now lol, more than half the ops are adversarial and still accepted (the vast majority contain invalid contents)

Re: Open Social

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Post by fruitworks »

notatoad wrote: post #41
koolba wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> running a domain costs money. there's no way around that - it requires server resources to respond to dns queries, and that requires servers and electricity. I guarantee you I can store and make available over DNS the less than 1 KiB of data for less than a penny a year. Instead of free, charge a flat $1, put it in long term US treasuries at 5% / TIPS at 2.5% and you’ve covered your hosting costs forever. The princ…

okay, so why aren't you doing that. if you can offer domains for $1, you can undercut all the existing players by a huge margin. that's a big opportunity, no?

You would need to pay the ICANN fief
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