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Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by ruperthair »

al_be_back wrote: post #163

Finally, a complete modular portable desktop, made in Europe, for about $350 usd (keyboard, mouse, camera, mic, display, power supply). I'm impressed. Although, a little late in the race to compete with US or Chinese PC makers. However, they've a good chance to influence drone and robotic computing, same goes for Arduino.

Sorry to say that I don't think any of it is made in Europe. From https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/meet-the-engineers-behind-r...:

Hardware engineers Simon Martin and Chris Martin have been beavering away on Raspberry Pi 500+ for years, through a process of iteration that’s seen a total of ten factory trips to China, six PCB revisions...

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by vegancap »

Cheer2171 wrote: post #147
vegancap wrote: post #111

I've been around long enough to find it absolutely astonishing, that you can now fit a computer with 16gb of ram, 265gb of storage and a quad core processor, with no cooling, inside a keyboard.

Those capabilities have been in a much smaller slab you have been able to carry around in your pocket for the last 5 years minimum, and that slab was a fully functional computer with full touchscreen display input, microphone/speaker, and cellular. The Samsung S20 Ultra (2020) has 16gb RAM 256GB of good fast storage, and with Dex you can connect it to a monitor and keyboard+mouse via a USB C dock and get a desktop wi…

Yeah it's the cost as well that's impressive. I've got a Samsung S25 Ultra in my pocket right now, but it cost like... £1200, so I'm less blown away by that somehow

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Post by mjmas »

zamalek wrote: post #136
pinkmuffinere wrote: post #121

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Is it really? If you want super low cost, they have the zero w2, the rpi2, the rpi3, etc. I feel they've already mostly perfected the products for that purpose. But of course they don't want to just 'stop building', so now they're moving up to more premium options. I feel there's nothing wrong with this. If you want the low cost exploration, stick with the things they designed forever ago, which fit that purpose.

A $80 x86 mini PC is wildly more powerful than prior Pis - at least so far as my home assistant use-case goes (Pi 4). Of course, the Pi is still king of power consumption (where x86 has improved, somewhat) and form-factor. - $200 PC: https://www.ebay.com/itm/266099800893 - Core i5 @ 3GHz - $80 PC: https://www.ebay.com/itm/135697152406 - Core i3 @ 3.5GHz So Pi is really filling a niche where you want form-factor, perf…

Those examples are for Refurbished, not New.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by kelvinjps »

makeitdouble wrote: post #157
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #130

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Or you just buy a below $200 laptop.

Below $200 laptops are way worse than what people imagine. Too many people look at ads, see something that looks like a laptop, and assume it's just a "no thrill" machine that mostly works. I've heard so many "how bad can it be?" hot takes as they've never used anything at that price. ※refurbished is another story, here we're talking about a new and under guarantee device so that wouldn't compare.

I bought a Thinkpad t80 and had been pretty good so far

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by akazantsev »

jsheard wrote: post #49
boredhedgehog wrote: post #47

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It requires a separate keyboard, which means more space usage and more cables. And not sure, but I think the N150 has a fan, so more noise.

N150 machines come with or without fans, the chip is cool enough to run passively with a decent heatsink. e.g. https://www.minix.com.hk/products/minix-z150-0db-fanless-min... The ones with fans tend to be cheaper and have better sustained performance though.

ASUS PN42 is also passive, but they do not mention it. You can find this out from teardown pictures. They also have certified 32GB memory sticks from Crucial.

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Post by trundle-drit »

I really wish Raspberry Pi (or someone) would make something like this but with a decently sized portable display. $100-$200 machine with a 10-14 inch 720p or 1080p screen would be really beneficial for access to computer education. Closest thing I've seen is the now-discontinued "PiTop", but even that was too expensive for the performance level.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by pjdesno »

xyzzy3000 wrote: post #218
soneil wrote: post #73

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> Nit: It's the Pi 500+ I really want to hope the name is a nod to the Amiga 500+ (which had twice the RAM of the A500 ..)

Acorn Archimedes 400 series, and the 500 series that followed it (in practice only the A540). The original ARM workstations. The single board computer Pi naming scheme is based on the BBC Micro (Model A, Model B). As for the 'plus' - Acorn A7000+ was the last of the Acorn desktop computers to be released. There is a heavy Acorn influence with Raspberry Pi, for good reason.

Don’t forget that ARM was originally the Acorn RISC Machine.

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Post by ssl-3 »

mrheosuper wrote: post #237
ssl-3 wrote: post #169

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13 years ago, we only had the Raspberry Pi Model B at $35 (about $50 in today's money -- same as a 2GB Pi 5), and just as today we still needed to get all of the accoutrements in-place to make it work: A power supply that it actually works with, a case, an SD card, perhaps a wifi adapter... My time machine is a little rusty, but all that and a breadboard was about a hundred bucks around that time: https://www.linuxjo…

if you use the raspberry as computer(instead of developing platform), why buy breadboard and other glitter ? The OG raspberry, with some cheap $5 mouse/keyboard, a $10 microsd, and you have a working computer for less than $50

The OG Raspberry Pi was $50 in today's money -- for the bare board and nothing else at all.

There is nothing to discuss whilst real factors like inflation are willfully ignored.

2012 was a long time ago, and these boards were not as inexpensive as rose-tinted glasses may suggest.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by matt-p »

florianist wrote: post #54

So many comments are very negative here. I'm currently using a Pi 4 as my home desktop computer and I will probably replace it with a Pi 500+. I really want to avoid a pre-installed Windows, want my computer to be 100% silent, low energy, and I fancy the computer-is-in-keyboard feel. Sure, I might get a mini PC for a bit cheaper but I like to support Raspberry Pi. The products are easy to get into, have great and las…

I agree. This is a genuinely good desktop for 'normal' tasks, sure you're not going to be running local LLMs or handling big 3D files but 4 decent arm cores, 16GB of RAM and a NVMe drive is more than enough for most.

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Post by matt-p »

kllrnohj wrote: post #173
Narishma wrote: post #145

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I've noticed Raspberry Pi posts here always attract tons of negative comments, regardless of what the article is about.

I think that's a combination of things: 1) The company "sold out". That is, in times of limited supply they prioritized fulfilling large compute module orders instead of the hobbyist market that initially supported them. To be fair if I was running that company I'd have done the exact same thing, it's obviously the right financial choice. Just, you know, it'll sting for the market that was shunned. 2) They got expens…

Pi5 with 4GB of ram is like £45 and runs fine for me on a standard super cheap 5v@3A charger. I think it's gone up probably less than inflation. I get where you're coming from though.
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