Apple's Claimed Private Data Flows Pass Through Amazon Infrastructure
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#3Not really a secret, e.g.:
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/03/apple-says-it-uses-amazons-c...
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#4Having both worked at Amazon and still in the cloud industry, to me this seems like a strange take.
Apple leases these computers from Amazon like it would from any other colo. Why wouldn’t these servers be considered Apple servers?
Barring a major privacy violation by AWS (which doesn’t seem likely), or some other sort of 0-day hack the data on these servers is entirely private to Apple.
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#7Having both worked at Amazon and still in the cloud industry, to me this seems like a strange take. Apple leases these computers from Amazon like it would from any other colo. Why wouldn’t these servers be considered Apple servers? Barring a major privacy violation by AWS (which doesn’t seem likely), or some other sort of 0-day hack the data on these servers is entirely private to Apple.
This means trusting AWS’s privacy policies too, which users aren’t always aware of or expecting when Apple promises full control. It’s about honest transparency.
We pay a premium for Apple's privacy restrictions and then end up being tricked to rely on Amazon's. It is false advertisement to say the least....
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#8Having both worked at Amazon and still in the cloud industry, to me this seems like a strange take. Apple leases these computers from Amazon like it would from any other colo. Why wouldn’t these servers be considered Apple servers? Barring a major privacy violation by AWS (which doesn’t seem likely), or some other sort of 0-day hack the data on these servers is entirely private to Apple.
This means trusting AWS’s privacy policies too, which users aren’t always aware of or expecting when Apple promises full control. It’s about honest transparency. We pay a premium for Apple's privacy restrictions and then end up being tricked to rely on Amazon's. It is false advertisement to say the least....
When Apple says your data doesn't leave their servers, that doesn't mean those servers have to be in their own datacenters or that Apple doesn't have other vendors that help them deliver their service. It also doesn't mean those companies have access to your unencrypted data. That data also, by necessity, likely traverses other networks in encrypted form on its way between you and Apple.
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#9> Where is this data going once it reaches AWS, and how is it being handled outside Apple’s network?
PRISM
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
This means trusting AWS’s privacy policies too, which users aren’t always aware of or expecting when Apple promises full control. It’s about honest transparency. We pay a premium for Apple's privacy restrictions and then end up being tricked to rely on Amazon's. It is false advertisement to say the least....
When Apple says your data doesn't leave their servers, that doesn't mean those servers have to be in their own datacenters or that Apple doesn't have other vendors that help them deliver their service. It also doesn't mean those companies have access to your unencrypted data. That data also, by necessity, likely traverses other networks in encrypted form on its way between you and Apple.
Apple claims that data they are in full control of your data from Safari, Maps, and Spotlight etc.... Data center or not, this contradicts both the spirit and letter of that promise.
This is basic logic.