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Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by Findecanor »

sockbot wrote: post #132

The Pi is already a module. I'd love to see the Pi "hundred" series start to incorporate modular designs between the keyboard and compute so they can be updated independently.

I've seen a couple examples on the forums of people building their own keyboards for the RPi 500.

With the RPi 500+ the RP2040 keyboard controller was moved from the motherboard to the keyboard's PCB. The narrower ribbon cable has lines for USB and power control, not the full keyboard matrix like on the RPi 500. But the new keyboard would still have to handle power control.

Even on the RPi 500 the RP2040 is programmable, so a replacement keyboard wouldn't necessarily be limited to Raspberry Pi's keyboard matrix if you alter the firmware.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by Findecanor »

glimshe wrote: post #24

$200 and still micro HDMI? No, thanks. Who is this product for? I've abandoned RPi after the rise of sub $200-PCs on Amazon, which usually come with power supply, on/off buttons, dual full size HDMIs, SSDs etc etc.

I suspect they had chosen the same HDMI port as was on the SBC so as to reduce confusion for the consumer.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by _flux »

makeitdouble wrote: post #177
cylinder714 wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lon Seidman just reviewed a $180 HP laptop from Walmart. Intel N150 processor, can run Linux and has upgradable RAM and storage: https://youtu.be/FRNz-xakWB8

But then, 2 min into the video they upgrade to 16G RAM and a 1TB SSD before going on to check the perfs. That's a testament to me of how usable they think the laptop is in its sold state.

Looks like the SSD is about $80 on Amazon.com and the RAM maybe $30+, so that's already a significant fraction of the device's original price.

Still reasonably affordable, though. But it's not under $200.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by exasperaited »

deater wrote: post #120
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This made me do some research and I'd say it appears so. https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-500-and-raspbe... > Our experiences with that programme informed the development of Raspberry Pi 400, our all-in-one PC, whose form factor (and name) harks back to the great 8-bit and 16-bit computers – the BBC Micro, Sinclair Spectrum, and Commodore Amiga – of the 1980s and 1990s. (emphasis mine) So the 400 name is…

quite possible because it's from Europe, but remember that Apple was sticking + on the end of their model names 6 years before the Amiga existed.

The BBC Model B (the machine the Raspberry Pi got its A/B designation) was supplemented with a Model B+ in 1985, with twice the memory.

https://chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/BBCB+6...

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by Findecanor »

JdeBP wrote: post #51
rbanffy wrote: post #2

> When we’re designing new Raspberry Pi products, we naturally look back to the computers of our childhoods: the tastefully beige BBC Micro, the Sinclair Spectrum with its rubber keyboard, the Commodore 64 “breadbin”, or the grandfather of them all, the Apple II. Now someone needs to make the keycaps with the right themes - black with function keys for the BBC, QL-looking for the Spectrum, shades of brown for the 64,…

Although for many years people have just been putting Pis inside actual home computer cases. In the BBC case, as a (software programmable) Second Processor connected over the Tube. * https://youtube.com/watch?v=mP7fiaync5E

Some newly made replacement cases for the Amiga have even incorporated screw mounts for Raspberry Pi.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by Findecanor »

maratc wrote: post #70

An improvement over Pi 500 in many ways, but adding keys to the right of heavily-used (r) Shift / Enter / Backspace would make it much harder to find these keys without looking at the keyboard. The previous version also had half-height arrows that had some negative space ("not keys") above them, and so it was easier to position the fingers over the arrows just by feel; this one makes it harder. I'd hope the next gene…

> keys to the right of heavily-used (r) Shift / Enter / Backspace would make it much harder to find these keys without looking at the keyboard.

I'd think that people who prefer mechanical keyboards already have the muscle memory so that that isn't a problem.

Personally, I depend on Delete and Home/End/Page Up/Page Down for my text/code editing and find any keyboard without them to be deficient.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by Findecanor »

lsch1033 wrote: post #124

Its dimensions are 312mm × 123.06mm × 35.76mm, so volumetrically it's 107.8% of a generic 14 inch laptop I'm currently typing on. The power button is the top right key on the keyboard, right next to the F12 / Delete key.

It is wedge-shaped, not a box. And a lot of the thickness is because it has a mechanical keyboard. You should really compare it to a "gaming laptop" that also has a mechanical keyboard — and those tend to be quite thick as well.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Post by arkensaw »

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #74
soneil wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nit: It's the Pi 500+ I really want to hope the name is a nod to the Amiga 500+ (which had twice the RAM of the A500 ..)

This made me do some research and I'd say it appears so. https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-500-and-raspbe... > Our experiences with that programme informed the development of Raspberry Pi 400, our all-in-one PC, whose form factor (and name) harks back to the great 8-bit and 16-bit computers – the BBC Micro, Sinclair Spectrum, and Commodore Amiga – of the 1980s and 1990s. (emphasis mine) So the 400 name is…

I guess its Pi 1200 next then?
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