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Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by ls612 »

Hobadee wrote: post #183

Am I using a different Gemini from everyone else? We have Google Workspace at my job, so Gemini is baked in. It is HORRENDOUS when compared to other models. I hear a bunch of other people talking about how great Gemini is, but I've never seen it. The responses are usually either incorrect, way too long, (essays when I wanted summaries) or just...not...good. I will ask the exact same question to both Gemini and ChatGP…

I use Gemini almost exclusively for coding and 2.5 Pro is extremely good at it. It has revised hundreds of lines of academic code for me at a time and the results run correctly with only minor revision.

I will also say whatever they use for the AI search summary is good enough for me like 50% of the time I google something, but those are generally the simpler 50% of queries.

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by boomer_joe »

Gemini 2.5 Pro feels heavily lobotomized for me lately, failing at very simple tasks with a frequency far above what I was used to seeing back when it first released. The personality seems to be getting worse too - I'm getting very tired of those dumbed analogies it loves to spew.

Would like to know whether Flash exhibits these issues as well.

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by manquer »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #194
manquer wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2.5.1 then . semantic versioning works for most scenarios.

Would that automatically roll over anyone pinging 2.5 via their API?

If you want role over then you could specify ^2.5.0 or 2.5.x if you want to pin then it would be 2.5.0

This is all solved for a long time now , llm vendors seems to have unlearnt versioning principles.

This is fairly typical - marketing and business wants different things to do with version number than what version number systems are good at .

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by SkyPuncher »

davidmckayv wrote: post #53

This really captures something I've been experiencing with Gemini lately. The models are genuinely capable when they work properly, but there's this persistent truncation issue that makes them unreliable in practice. I've been running into it consistently, responses that just stop mid-sentence, not because of token limits or content filters, but what appears to be a bug in how the model signals completion. It's been…

This is my perception as well.

Gemini 2.5 Pro is _amazing_ for software architecture, but I just get tired of poking it along. Sonnet does well enough.

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by BlueGh0st »

Hobadee wrote: post #183

Am I using a different Gemini from everyone else? We have Google Workspace at my job, so Gemini is baked in. It is HORRENDOUS when compared to other models. I hear a bunch of other people talking about how great Gemini is, but I've never seen it. The responses are usually either incorrect, way too long, (essays when I wanted summaries) or just...not...good. I will ask the exact same question to both Gemini and ChatGP…

I have the same sentiment. I've never really had success using Gemini outside of translation. Although, even with that, Gemini would often refuse and I had to remind it that it does actually know other languages.

My most recent trials output single commas as responses to basic questions or it simply refuses the task on ethical grounds such as generating a photo of a backpack wearing a hoodie for some reason (it claimed harmful stereotypes and instead generated an ape).

Refusing to do perfectly ethical tasks is probably the most consist problem I've had.

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by not_kurt_godel »

BeetleB wrote: post #114
jjani wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't agree with that. Gemini doesn't lead just on price/performance - ironically it's the best "normie" model most of the time, despite it's lack of popularity with them until very recent. It's bad at agentic stuff, especially coding. Incomparably so compared to Claude and now GPT-5. But if it's just about asking it random stuff, and especially going on for very long in the same conversation - which non-tech users h…

I recently started using Open WebUI, which lets you run your query on multiple models simultaneously. My anecdote: For non-coding tasks, Gemini 2.5 Pro beats Sonnet 4 handily . It's a lot more common to get wrong/hallucinated content from Sonnet 4 than Gemini.

Agreed. People talk up Claude but every time I try it I wind up coming back to Gemini fairly quickly. And it's good enough at coding to be acceptably close to Claude as well IMO.

Re: Improved Gemini 2.5 Flash and Flash-Lite

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Post by behnamoh »

nico wrote: post #195
davidmckayv wrote: post #53

This really captures something I've been experiencing with Gemini lately. The models are genuinely capable when they work properly, but there's this persistent truncation issue that makes them unreliable in practice. I've been running into it consistently, responses that just stop mid-sentence, not because of token limits or content filters, but what appears to be a bug in how the model signals completion. It's been…

Another issue: Gemini can’t do tool calling and (forced) json output at the same time If you want to use application/json as the specified output in the request, you can’t use tools So if you need both, you either hope it gives you correct json when using tools (which many times it doesn’t). Or you have to do two requests, one for the tool calling, another for formatting At least, even if annoying, this issue is pret…

Does any other provider allow that? what use cases are there for JSON + tool calling at the same time?
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