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Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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> Even a basic not-too-horrible screen will cost another $80 I believe the idea is that you'd plug it into the TV you already have, like we did in the 1980s.

Or you just buy a below $200 laptop.

With 16GB of RAM and 256GB of SSD? Has the market really gotten that far?

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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> Holy smokes, they actually fixed my personal pet peeve of this entire product line: it has an internal M.2 slot. What's odd is that the original 500 already had an unpopulated M.2 slot, so they considered it a year ago but backed out for whatever reason.

According to Jeff Geerling's video, the main PCB in the 500+ is identical to the 500, same revision and all. Presumably they planned both the 500 and 500+ at the same time so they designed a single PCB that could accommodate both, and then only populated the m.2 parts when building a 500+. So I don't think they "backed out" rather just didn't have the 500+ ready to launch yet.

Note that the mechanical keyboard is probably one of the major reasons the Pi 500+ took a lot longer to release than the regular 500.

According to an interview on the Pi blog[1], it was "years", with prototypes being built through 2023.

I know the design lifecycle for a product like this is in the 3-5 year range, and adding on a custom mechanical keyboard in a mass-market product like this is a tall order.

Honestly I'm not put off by the $200 price tag. If you use one in person (like at a Micro Center here in the US), you'll feel it's a decent midrange mechanical keyboard. It won't compete on the high end (IMO $200+), but to strap that onto a decent low-end PC in a fanless design isn't cheap, even at the scales Raspberry Pi operates.

They have some margin, for sure, but that's also how they turn profit, which is especially useful since then went public.

At least they're still putting out products like this, that don't really have any industrial/commercial appeal, compared to specialized compute modules for individual customers[2].

[1] https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/meet-the-engineers-behind-r...

[2] https://www.cnx-software.com/2025/09/23/raspberry-pi-cm0-cas...

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Most likely cheap or fake SD cards. I've been running a Raspberry Pi camera (recording) to a SanDisk SD card for years and it's still going strong.

Same here. My Raspberry Pi Zero camera has been running non-stop for more than 2 years without a single issue.

Just to add to this train, I've run at least 10 Pis on microSD cards averaging 3 years each (mostly Pi 4s, added a couple Pi 5s), and have not had one issue on any of them... it's mostly down to using a good microSD card (I settled on SanDisk brand), a good power supply (good PoE+ HAT or official PSU), and not writing tons and tons of data to microSD (use NVMe or USB SSD/HDD if you need that).

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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> The ultimate all-in-one PC I object to this labelling: the term “all-in-one PC” has always been used to mean a computer integrated into a screen , to which you must add a keyboard and mouse (or more likely it will be bundled with a low-quality keyboard and mouse). But this is a computer integrated into a (good) keyboard , to which you must add a screen and mouse—and screens are more expensive than keyboards. Even a…

Or you just learn to compute blind

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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For 200€, you can get yourself an old Thinkpad, flash it with some coreboot variation, install a GNU/Linux distribution and in process you will learn more things and it is not an RGB keyboard; it is really an "all-in-one PC".

"For that price, you can just use an old laptop" has been true ever since the OG Raspberry Pi showed up ~13 years ago. And that's great, and stuff, if what a person wants is the most compute they can get for the fewest dollars possible. But when someone instead wants a quite small computer that is actually friendly to hardware tinkering, and they want to buy it new, then a used Thinkpad will not scratch that itch --…

Any laptop you could buy 13 years ago for $25 would probably be parts only. So no, that's not true.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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For 200€, you can get yourself an old Thinkpad, flash it with some coreboot variation, install a GNU/Linux distribution and in process you will learn more things and it is not an RGB keyboard; it is really an "all-in-one PC".

The power of the Pi comes from the standardized 40 pin GPIO for hooking other devices up to.

USB from any PC to an Arduino is like $0.50.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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> Even a basic not-too-horrible screen will cost another $80 I believe the idea is that you'd plug it into the TV you already have, like we did in the 1980s.

Or you just buy a below $200 laptop.

Below $200 laptops are way worse than what people imagine.

Too many people look at ads, see something that looks like a laptop, and assume it's just a "no thrill" machine that mostly works. I've heard so many "how bad can it be?" hot takes as they've never used anything at that price.

※refurbished is another story, here we're talking about a new and under guarantee device so that wouldn't compare.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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quite possible because it's from Europe, but remember that Apple was sticking + on the end of their model names 6 years before the Amiga existed.

I think that many companies have been appending + to the end of product names for an extremely long time. This is hardly an Apple innovation.

Next you're gonna try and tell me that Apple didn't invent the mobile phone. Or the portable MP3 player. Or the windowing GUI.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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I think that many companies have been appending + to the end of product names for an extremely long time. This is hardly an Apple innovation.

Next you're gonna try and tell me that Apple didn't invent the mobile phone. Or the portable MP3 player. Or the windowing GUI.

Jobs was "inspired" by a visit at Xerox labs, they showed him a GUI built using Smalltalk (which they'd also invented). So naturally, he ran back to his office and invented GUI ;)

Re: Raspberry Pi 500+

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Or you just buy a below $200 laptop.

Below $200 laptops are way worse than what people imagine. Too many people look at ads, see something that looks like a laptop, and assume it's just a "no thrill" machine that mostly works. I've heard so many "how bad can it be?" hot takes as they've never used anything at that price. ※refurbished is another story, here we're talking about a new and under guarantee device so that wouldn't compare.

You can buy a near mint lenovo l14 gen 3 from 2022 for $200. I know this because I bought one for my in-laws a few days ago.
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