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Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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How is 25 American takings jobs in Austria newsworthy?

On its own it isn't, but I suspect if all of these were reported you might think it quite significant.

Why do they not make an actual story out of this, do some research and publish whether there was some unusually high outflow of academics over the last two years?

25 people can not be an indication of anything. Academics especially are moving around often and take up work in different countries.

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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How is 25 American takings jobs in Austria newsworthy?

Not many people walk away from Harvard, MIT, Princeton, etc. If you had tenure there (a big if, since the article is unclear), or even were tenure track, that was viewed as one of the most prestigious and desirable jobs in the world.

25 people leaving is a sea change.

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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post #22

How is 25 American takings jobs in Austria newsworthy?

Not many people walk away from Harvard, MIT, Princeton, etc. If you had tenure there (a big if, since the article is unclear), or even were tenure track, that was viewed as one of the most prestigious and desirable jobs in the world. 25 people leaving is a sea change.

>25 people leaving is a sea change.

25 Academics leaving is not "sea change".

>If you had tenure there (a big if, since the article is unclear), or even were tenure track, that was viewed as one of the most prestigious and desirable jobs in the world.

Some very major ifs there.

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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I was hoping the EU can capitalize on this, but remain skeptical as the EU politicians have noticed what kind of rhetoric is successful and are starting to bang the same drum louder and louder. Being anti immigration one of the main ideas. We'll see. My bet is China will be the big winner.

This has been my observation living in the EU.

Two regions that have been capitalising from skilled programmers and that hardly anyone talks about are the UAE and Saudi Arabia.

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Imagine if people made a Trump joke whenever New York City came up in conversation.

Yes, just imagine if trump was brought up often no matter the subject.... I can't imagine what point you think you're making.

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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The article doesn't go into details whether these academics are full professors or e.g. postdocs. Twenty-five tenured professors would be a big deal because they tend to either bring their workgroups along or rebuild them at the new university. That's where the true impact of such news lies if these are indeed teachers: these groups produce a steady stream of future experts in the form of graduates and PhDs in their respective domains. Given the timelines for careers of students and young academics, the full impact of these moves should start to show in about 5 to 10 years.

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taking a less cynical view, it's just successful Austrian PR.

It's right in the first paragraph: "Austria has lured what it calls 25 "top researchers" away from U.S. institutions including Harvard, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Princeton with grants set up in response to the Trump administration's funding cuts targeting universities."

This article is missing key info. Which research areas are we talking about?

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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post #25

I was hoping the EU can capitalize on this, but remain skeptical as the EU politicians have noticed what kind of rhetoric is successful and are starting to bang the same drum louder and louder. Being anti immigration one of the main ideas. We'll see. My bet is China will be the big winner.

This has been my observation living in the EU. Two regions that have been capitalising from skilled programmers and that hardly anyone talks about are the UAE and Saudi Arabia.

They are in an excellent position to capitalize on the situation: deep pockets and a shady reputation that has kept competition low, so they should have plenty of open position.
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