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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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> The project began after a meeting in 2021 between Microsoft’s chief executive, Satya Nadella, and the unit’s then commander, Yossi Sariel.

This seemed completely glossed over in the article (never revisited beyond this) but seems to imply that Satya must have at least known something about what was happening?

Or was he mislead, told partial truths, or something?

Very curious who within Microsoft knew anything about what was happening.

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post #285

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How do you think Israel was formed in the first place? Or is your comment intentionally ironic?

In the fist place? That was 3,000 or so years ago.

There was never a country called Israel until 1948. It was always Palestine.

The idea of a nation called Israel is the invention of Zionists in the 19th and 20th century.

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Source?

I would also like to read the source for the last claim of that statement. The break-in is well established in multiple sources, and also documented on Wikipedia (citing one of those sources). CNBC also add that they planted microphones (using phones) as listening devices. "In the aftermath of the protests, Smith claimed that the protestors had blocked people out of the office, planted listening devices in the form o…

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Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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> The decision brings to an abrupt end a three-year period in which the spy agency operated its surveillance programme using Microsoft’s technology. Are we supposed to believe Microsoft was unaware of the contents but decided to terminate coincidentally when reports of what they're doing came out?

Are you asking whether Microsoft engineers routinely poke around their customer’s private clouds (including ones used by foreign intelligence agencies) to make sure everything is kosher?

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> I believe it also to be true that the IDF do not want to kill civilians, and that their target is only Hamas. I think it’s this second assertion that relies on facts not in evidence. Previous Guardian reporting on IDF use of compute for targeting indicated they were using it to increase, not decrease, the number of approved targets.

Quantity doesn't correlate with accuracy. OP's point was that surely having more intelligence means you are more accurate and thus less collateral damage.

Again, prior reporting on the IDF’s computational efforts do not indicate that less collateral damage was a driver - quite the contrary, the algorithm was being used to pad out targeting lists: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai...

You’re describing what ought to be, not what currently is.

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I know a story of a guy who got fired for just talking to the CEO of his large company!

america sounds like such a hell-hole that would be a nice compensation package in any first world country

You’re going to base an opinion on a third-hand story? That might not even be true just to illustrate a point?

I know a guy that passed BillG in a hallway and said, “hey, Bill, how’s it hangin’?” (Saw him do it; I was mortified.) Just a bottom-tier IC at the time. 20 years later, he still works there. Still an IC, though, so make of it what you will. :-)

So there, now you have another folksy anecdote to balance things out.

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I think you're misunderstanding my question. I'm not saying "this story is bogus," but rather I'm saying that this sort of data is probably not the kind of data which is acquired through really secret means. Perhaps it was purchased from providers, or some other less-secret method.

Israel actually had a bunch of rules where Palestinians are not allowed to have 5G or 4G networks to ensure that they can be monitored. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/israeli-restri... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_in_Palestine And yes it is recording pretty much all calls in Palestine: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/06/microsoft-isra...

I really had no idea, thanks for the links.

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Kinda bullish for azure that the idf chose it over aws

Israel (like many governments) is very Microsoft Windows centric, so if I had to guess it wasn't chosen due to technical merits but instead based on existing business relationships. Note: I've used Azure and it sucks. :)

Azure’s web app for managing servers is a nightmare

Uses the same awful UI/plaform as their Xbox account settings

Microsoft always somehow succeeds in spite of the quality of everything they build.

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That's a funny way to say "they fired staff that vandalized company property, broke into the CEO's office, and used an internal company website to publish and promote anti-company propaganda". That will get you fired from bussing tables or washing dishes, let alone a six-figure job at MS. Edit: Source on the last one; the first two were widely reported on in media: https://lunduke.substack.com/p/fired-microsoft-emplo…

One protestor was fired after interrupting a CEO's speech.

Oh no, is the CEO ok?
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