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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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> 11,500 terabytes of Israeli military data – equivalent to approximately 200m hours of audio – was held in Microsoft’s Azure servers in the Netherlands

I wonder why IDC choose the Netherlands location. Microsoft has one Azure region in Israel itself: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/reliability/regions-...

Why build something near or semi near conflict?

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The word genocide has a legal definition, it’s not up for discussion or debate. What is happening in Gaza is a genocide according to genocide scholars.

This is a bit off topic but there isn't anything more debated in history than legal definitions. Maybe religious scripture?

I don't think you could have raised a weaker point.

Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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I am seeing several kneejerk "Microsoft bad" reactions here, which HNers don't do for many other companies. I encourage many of you to read what is written.

They listened to their internal staff and stakeholders and public pressure, and did terminated the contract instead of ignoring it or doubling down.

That is a good thing.

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IBM has a long tradition to provide computers for such use cases ;)

Fun fact, that the famous Holocaust five digit number is still used today in IBM mainframe RACFs, this is coming from the punch cards era, when the census data was tabulated in Nazi Germany with the help of Thomas Watson.

I worked at a large US bank, and we used IBM mainframes at the core, including user identity.

Every employee had a five digit number as login, no different than Holocaust prisoner number, with a prefix, indicating user account type (employee, non-employee, service acct, etc).

My IBM number was 23579

Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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“I want to note our appreciation for the reporting of the Guardian,” [Microsoft’s vice-chair and president, Brad Smith] wrote, noting that it had brought to light “information we could not access in light of our customer privacy commitments”. He added: “Our review is ongoing.” Its interesting that they seem to be saying they dont know the full details of how their customers are using Azure, due to privacy commitments…

I don't know if it's _true_, but it seems right? I don't want Microsoft to have this level of visibility into my usage of Azure, just like I don't want my phone provider to eavesdrop on my conversations. I'm no privacy ayatollah, but this seems like a reasonable amount of privacy from Microsoft

Well, the average org isn't out there literally committing genocide

Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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The issue that people have with Israel's actions is the death of civilians, not the death of Hamas, the widely recognised terrorist. I believe it also to be true that the IDF do not want to kill civilians, and that their target is only Hamas.

In which case, is it prudent to remove the IDF's ability to successfully target the correct people? Precise military intelligence is absolutely necessary for minimising civilian casualties.

Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Very true. I've gone on dates with a couple Jewish women over the past two or three years & they've all staunchly supported Palestine which surprised me a bit.

Your sample size of two surely is conclusive? lol

I'm just speaking from my personal experience and don't mean to draw any conclusions about anything.
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