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Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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I find the Ads to be annoying, but the "ML Fairness" (re-calibrating demographic distributions of photos) to be more disturbing.

though I've noticed that they've dialed down the knobs a bit. It's still there, but far less blatant (probably due to the attention-grabbing BARD debacle)

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When I search for "midjourney" without an adblocker a bunch of times, I'm getting: - No ads, with correct midjourney.com as the top result, about half the time - A legit ad for midjourney.com with the title "Your Imagination, Unlocked", the other half the time. It's the only ad, and the correct midjourney.com is also still directly below it as the first organic result So both seem fine for me. I've never seen ads on…

You don't fall into any desirable demographic for targeting apparently, or you've never leaked enough info about you that would signify you as desirable.

In other words, nobody is bidding to reach your eyeballs specifically.

This could be a market inefficiency. OR, it could be you're actually a terrible lead for midjourney-type products, and the market is working correctly.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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I'm old enough to remember when a big selling point of Google was that it didn't do this.

My memory says that wasn't such a big selling point. When Google first came out it blew all other search engines away in terms of result quality. If, back then, Yahoo and Altavista were minimalist and Google was a garish nightmare of ads and flashing gifs and nested banners and affiliate buttons, I would still have happily used it for the results. Google's search interface is still reasonably clean IMO. Nowhere near…

I don’t have an image to prove it, but I remember google making it a point and bragging of having clearly differentiated ads (in pale yellow I think?).

It was a big contrast and a signal of classy goodwill, back in the age of replicating popups and garish blinking text.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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It's a very common story in industry. You start nimble, and disrupt bloated platforms. Then, as you grow, pressure grows and you also bloat. Then new company comes that brings nimble product and disrupt you. Search, TV->internet video, newspapers->internet - all of them go through those cycles.

Wouldn't it be nice if some companies instead of ramping up ads for revenue passed along the value to consumers? Once they made their money back on the original investments convert to a lifestyle and provide a valuable product without squeezing every penny our of it and in the end killing it. One day maybe.

I feel like you'd need a new corporate structure or something, like the way an S-corp is different, but on steroids.

Because I agree, the forced obsession with "growth" at all costs, which seems necessary to operate a public company (at least in this century[1]), is imho the #1 reason why enshittification is unavoidable.

[1] I'd describe nearly all present-day corporations as fixated on quarterly results even at the expense of business viability. Something I truly don't understand is why big companies say, 75 years ago seem to have been so much less that way. If anyone has any theories I'd love to hear them.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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I agree about DDG, but I find Kagi worth paying for.

A very valuable service for its price. Also translate.kagi.com is much better than Google’s one.

For translation, a good one is DeepL.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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They still get away with it as ‘only’ 1% complain and Google thinks they don’t matter. We built our entire company for that 1%.

Hey freediver, I bought a kagi shirt in the initial batch, got it, and then after one wash it unraveled. Your support team was great and gave me a coupon for a replacement shirt, which I ordered, yet it never shipped. Could I get that shirt :D

We're finally going to find out if he gives a shirt!

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But like always they didn't stop once they were a bit profitable with a few ads, instead they got greedier and greedier and made their product worse once they captured most of the market, I have wonder if there can exist some variant of capitalism that punishes becoming a bit too greedy, like a soft ceiling (tied to the minimum wage) over which most of the profits go to taxes, and a hard one where all profits over th…

That capitalism technically already exists in the US. We have very strong monopoly laws. It's just...nobody is enforcing them. Unlike the 70's and 80's: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakup_of_the_Bell_System

AT&T eventually gave up and agreed to divest of the RBOCs because they didn't like their chances with the regulators. Imagine a Big Tech company having so little faith today in their ability to manipulate the government between lobbying, campaign contributions, and the most modern and economical play, stroking the President's ego.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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You can try with https://www.google.com/search?q=midjurny

My superpower is mispealing even trivial words, Google autocorrect them, but most of the time there are no ads :)

The problem in the post is even worst with YouTube, because Google adds allow to show http://example.com/sale?utm=123456789&crap=987654321 as http://example.com This is not a problem in most business sites, but in YouTube it allows any user to impersonate the main page.

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