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Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Re: Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Post by jasoneckert »

typpilol wrote: post #17
jasoneckert wrote: post #8

As someone who has used the Snapdragon X Elite (12 core Oryon) Dev Kit as a daily driver for the past year, I find this exciting. The X Elite performance still blows my mind today - so the new X2 Elite with 18 cores is likely going to be even more impressive from a performance perspective! I can't speak to the battery life, however, since it is dismal on my Dev Kit ;-)

How's the compatibility? Are there any apps that don't work that are critical?

Have I had any app compatibility issues? To quote Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 3, Line 87: "No."

The Prism binary emulation for x86 apps that don't have an ARM equivalent has been stellar with near-native performance (better than Rosetta in macOS). And I've tried some really obscure stuff!

Re: Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Post by throwaway74354 »

ggm wrote: post #12

Who is likely to package this into existing lines, from the majors? Is this a future lenovo/thinkpad carbon?

X1 Carbon is part of the Intel Evo Platform. These are co-developed with Intel and therefore this line is exclusive to them.

X13s was confirmed to be sunset, another T14s is the most likely candidate among the ThinkPads.

Re: Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Post by christopher8827 »

typpilol wrote: post #17
jasoneckert wrote: post #8

As someone who has used the Snapdragon X Elite (12 core Oryon) Dev Kit as a daily driver for the past year, I find this exciting. The X Elite performance still blows my mind today - so the new X2 Elite with 18 cores is likely going to be even more impressive from a performance perspective! I can't speak to the battery life, however, since it is dismal on my Dev Kit ;-)

How's the compatibility? Are there any apps that don't work that are critical?

Most apps for dev work actually work; - RStudio - VS Code - WSL2 - Fusion 360 - Docker

Only major exception is: - Android Studio's Emulator (although, the IDE does work)

Re: Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Post by leakycap »

christopher8827 wrote: post #14

I'm holding my breath though. I have a Samsung Edge 4 laptop and I didn't find the battery life impressive - prob got around 6 hours under coding / programming tasks. GPU performance is terrible too.

I feel like I'm constantly charger-tending all my non-Apple silicon laptops.

M-series instant wake from sleep is also years ahead of the Windows wakeup roulette, so even if this new processor helps with time away from chargers... we still have the Windows sleep/hibernate experience.

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Post by wyldfire »

groguzt wrote: post #27

Linux support is still basically non-existent for the first gen, and they made all this deal about supporting Linux and the open source community. This is to say, don't trust them

The truth is much more subtle than "nonexistent" IMO [1].

Clearly it's a priority because the support for ChromeOS/android support is a big headline this year.

[1] https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-24-10-concept-snapdrag...

Also worth noting that not all the bits needing support are inside of the Snapdragon, so specific vendor support from Dell, Lenovo etc is required.

Re: Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Post by electroly »

typpilol wrote: post #17
jasoneckert wrote: post #8

As someone who has used the Snapdragon X Elite (12 core Oryon) Dev Kit as a daily driver for the past year, I find this exciting. The X Elite performance still blows my mind today - so the new X2 Elite with 18 cores is likely going to be even more impressive from a performance perspective! I can't speak to the battery life, however, since it is dismal on my Dev Kit ;-)

How's the compatibility? Are there any apps that don't work that are critical?

Surface Pro 11 owner here. SQL Server won't install on ARM without hacks. Hyper-V does not support nested virtualization on ARM. Most games are broken with unplayable graphical glitches with Qualcomm video drivers, but fortunately not all. Most Windows recovery tools do not support ARM: no Media Creation Tool, no Installation Assistant, and recovery drives created on x64 machines aren't compatible [EDIT: see reply, I might be mistaken on this]. Creation of a recovery drive for a Snapdragon-based Surface (which you have to do from a working Snapdragon-based Surface) requires typing your serial code into a Microsoft website, then downloading a .zip of drivers that you manually overwrite onto the recovery media that Windows 11 creates for you.

Day-to-day, it's all fine, but I may be returning to x64 next time around. I'm not sure that I'm receiving an offsetting benefit for these downsides. Battery life isn't something that matters for me.

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