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Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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dabeeeenster wrote: post #65

Related (7 years ago): https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/8q1j0o/la_liga_uses... - Bars, pubs and other public establishments have to pay around 200€/month in order to show football on their TVs while the household package goes between 10 and 30€/month. - The official app, with over 10 million downloads, asks you for microphone and GPS permissions. - La Liga remotely activates the microphone and tries to detect…

of course you can tip your favourite bar to the football police https://laligabares.com/denuncias/

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by create-username »

vintermann wrote: post #170
veeti wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most EU countries private copying levies are paid to the copyright mafia any time you purchase a hard drive, printer or even a blank cassette. Because you know, you might copy something using it.

Also, blank media levies in no way give you permission to do what you're paying a tax the biggest rights owners for.

yeah but I paid the full levy so I will download all the things that aren't illegal and hunting and gathering for free films isn't illegal

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by gloosx »

fluoridation wrote: post #176
gloosx wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a wider perspective it does vanish in terms of productive value: billions go into inflated transfers and club losses that generate little beyond spectacle, instead of going into things that improve lives (cheap energy, infrastructure, innovation, public goods)

I honestly don't understand what you mean. >billions go into inflated transfers and club losses that generate little beyond spectacle "Club losses"? If you pay a football player 100k to play a match, even if the point of the match is nothing but spectacle, that money doesn't evaporate. The player will spend it on the economy. What else could he possibly do with it besides spending it or tossing it in a fire? If a clu…

The point is how it circulates. If €200M goes into a transfer fee, it is locked into a prestige loop instead of funding productive investment, it gets trapped in a cycle that reinforces inequality and produces very little outside of image-building. The recipients of this money are a tiny elite which they then spend mostly in elite consumption loops: luxury real estate, yachts, exclusive services, tax havens.

Speaking capitalist language, overinflated football spending is a misallocation of capital on low-return assets which creates market distortions.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by smelendez »

fragmede wrote: post #175
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>In UK/Ireland you can easily identify if the venue in question is paying for the commercial package as it will intermittently display a pint glass symbol in a bottom corner of the screen. Indeed, Sky investigators, who do spot checks, use it to quickly ensure that the pub has a valid pub contract and not a residential contract. That seems as if it would be so easy to fake...

Does it cost more less time/effort for the bar to fake it though? The price of 200€/month above seems low enough to just pay it.

I think that's it.

I assume the pint glass pops up at intervals that the investigators would know and the general public would not, so you'd need some kind of central service with someone watching the commercial stream and showing/hiding the pint glass at the right intervals. In which case it would make more sense to operate a central service just pirating the commercial stream, which I'm sure does happen and does get shut down.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by fluoridation »

gloosx wrote: post #183
fluoridation wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly don't understand what you mean. >billions go into inflated transfers and club losses that generate little beyond spectacle "Club losses"? If you pay a football player 100k to play a match, even if the point of the match is nothing but spectacle, that money doesn't evaporate. The player will spend it on the economy. What else could he possibly do with it besides spending it or tossing it in a fire? If a clu…

The point is how it circulates. If €200M goes into a transfer fee, it is locked into a prestige loop instead of funding productive investment, it gets trapped in a cycle that reinforces inequality and produces very little outside of image-building. The recipients of this money are a tiny elite which they then spend mostly in elite consumption loops: luxury real estate, yachts, exclusive services, tax havens. Speaking…

>luxury real estate, yachts, exclusive services, tax havens

All of that eventually has to flow back into, as you'd put it, non-elite segments of the economy. What, do you think shipyard workers eat yatchs? There's no subnetwork in the economy where money flows in and never comes back out. That just doesn't exist.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by 1317 »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #169
piltdownman wrote: post #82

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No, the bar pays something like 10x the price of a normal subscription to be able to publicly show live Sports as a draw for their customers. In UK/Ireland you can easily identify if the venue in question is paying for the commercial package as it will intermittently display a pint glass symbol in a bottom corner of the screen. Indeed, Sky investigators, who do spot checks, use it to quickly ensure that the pub has a…

>In UK/Ireland you can easily identify if the venue in question is paying for the commercial package as it will intermittently display a pint glass symbol in a bottom corner of the screen. Indeed, Sky investigators, who do spot checks, use it to quickly ensure that the pub has a valid pub contract and not a residential contract. That seems as if it would be so easy to fake...

The pint glass also changes colour

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by arresin »

vintermann wrote: post #170
veeti wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most EU countries private copying levies are paid to the copyright mafia any time you purchase a hard drive, printer or even a blank cassette. Because you know, you might copy something using it.

Also, blank media levies in no way give you permission to do what you're paying a tax the biggest rights owners for.

Corruption

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by toast0 »

saghm wrote: post #174
hearsathought wrote: post #156

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Why doesn't he just save himself the time, money and hassle and just watch the highlights or highlight clips. I understand why the NFL is going the stream route given how popular it is already. They can afford to inconvenience people. But MLB has been stagnant or declining for so long. You'd think they'd make their content more accessible to grow the fan base.

I think he enjoys having the entire game on in the background. He's partially switched over to listening to the radio broadcasts for games, which apparently are often provided online as well (which makes sense, given nothing really needs to change in terms of how they make money to provide it online instead of via a radio station). What's weird to me is that the MLB does seem to genuinely be trying to make changes in…

> I'm not sure how they've managed to fall so far behind in terms of streaming experience

It's because they need to keep the broadcasters and the teams happy and broadcasters want to have exclusive content. In some markets, teams want local blackouts to help get butts in seats.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by codedokode »

cestith wrote: post #165
kulahan wrote: post #149

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It's clearly not illegal.

Often it’s not. Back when Sony put a Windows rootkit on autorun on music CDs just in case someone wanted to rip a FLAC, that was a felony violation of the CFAA in the US. The big difference is consent. If I use your app to watch a game and the conditions of using your app include giving you microphone access, that’s legal. If you breach my phone to turn on the mic and listen to me, that’s illegal.

So if someone for example, adds a statement to T&C that as a payment for use of software, the user consents to collecting of a sequence of pressed keys (including 16-digit numbers) and selling them on the black market to whoever is interested, it becomes legal?

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by codedokode »

XCSme wrote: post #55
Lucasoato wrote: post #5

In Italy something similar is happening: they have split the football game rights among different competitors, so that if you want to watch every game you have to spend >100€ monthly (that's very high for our economy). To this, add the facts that there has been a major hit to illegal streaming piracy and that football games are getting extremely boring in our country (compared to the Premier League or our Serie A of…

Best way to watch sports now is to go to a bar that broadcasts it. If you have a drink, it only costs you 5EUR/match. Maybe you watch 5-6 matches a month, so still cheaper than 100EUR/month and you get drinks and service included.

Also can shout without neighbours calling police.
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