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Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

the_af wrote: post #93
femtozer wrote: post #51

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I also pay for YouTube Premium, but I still use ReVanced on my smartphone just to disable auto-translation. It’s absolute madness that users can’t configure this in the official app.

The auto-dub feature is madness. I noticed it first a couple of days ago, I'm crossing my fingers that few authors choose to enable it, and that YouTube makes it easy to disable as a default in settings (not currently possible, you have to do it as you watch, every time). I'm in a Spanish speaking country, but I want to watch English videos in English. Auto-generated subtitles for other languages are ok, but I want t…

It is enabled by default. One creator of English language content had their video misclassified as Spanish and people were getting a machine English dub on an English video. Support to fix it appears to be a nightmare.

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

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Post by the_af »

OJFord wrote: post #167
the_af wrote: post #93

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The auto-dub feature is madness. I noticed it first a couple of days ago, I'm crossing my fingers that few authors choose to enable it, and that YouTube makes it easy to disable as a default in settings (not currently possible, you have to do it as you watch, every time). I'm in a Spanish speaking country, but I want to watch English videos in English. Auto-generated subtitles for other languages are ok, but I want t…

I don't want it dubbed whether I speak the language or not.

Yes, this is what I mean. I NEVER want it dubbed.

I'd rather use auto-generated subtitles (even if flawed), but I want to hear the original voices!

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

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Post by codedokode »

diet_mtn_dew wrote: post #296
codedokode wrote: post #232

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YT shares income from subscriptions with music labels? I didn't hear about this, and even if they shared the download must be paid much higher than a view because after downloading a person could potentially listen for a track hundred times in a row.

Youtube premium includes Youtube Music, which is alphabet's streaming service, and I assume that they are paying the same fees as everyone else.

> as everyone else

"Everyone else" do not allow to download music in an unencrypted format, so it makes sense if YT doesn't allow also.

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

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Post by the_af »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #311
the_af wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The auto-dub feature is madness. I noticed it first a couple of days ago, I'm crossing my fingers that few authors choose to enable it, and that YouTube makes it easy to disable as a default in settings (not currently possible, you have to do it as you watch, every time). I'm in a Spanish speaking country, but I want to watch English videos in English. Auto-generated subtitles for other languages are ok, but I want t…

It is enabled by default. One creator of English language content had their video misclassified as Spanish and people were getting a machine English dub on an English video. Support to fix it appears to be a nightmare.

Wait, do you mean it's enabled by default but the author can disable it?

If not, I wonder why I can still watch most videos in their original language (even though I'm in a Spanish-speaking country), and I only encountered this once so far.

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

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Post by greenavocado »

sillyfluke wrote: post #286
chrisweekly wrote: post #177

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Wow. That was eloquent, and coherent, and depressing. I'd be grateful for someone to counter with something less dismal. Good things are still happening in the world. A positive future remains possible -- but we have to be able to imagine it to bring it into being.

Well on the bright side blood avocados are still green. Which the poster also seems to appreciate.

Lately I've had to resort to buying avocados from Costco in those little plastic cups because whole avocados in many supermarkets in my region have started to spoil too quickly. Sad.

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

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Post by Liquix »

judge2020 wrote: post #222
Aurornis wrote: post #208

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That conspiracy theory never even made sense to me. Why would anyone think that a payment and ad-supported content platform secretly wants their content to be leaked through ad and payment free means?

Mainly the theory that, if you can’t use downloaders to download videos, then people will no longer see YT as the go-to platform for any video hosting and will consider alternatives. And I call that a theory for a reason. Creators can still download their videos from YT Studio, I'm not sure how much importance there is on being able to download any video ever (and worst case scenario people could screen recording vid…

i'd argue that 95%+ of users (creators and viewers) couldn't care less about downloading videos. creators use youtube because it's where the viewers and money are, viewers use youtube because it's where all the content is. none of them are going to jump ship if yt-dlp dies.

also, one could assume that the remaining 5% are either watching with vlc/mpv/etc or running an adblocker. so it's not like google is going to lose ad revenue by breaking downloaders like yt-dlp. grandparent comment (legacy smart TV support) is the much more likely explanation

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

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Post by Bootvis »

LtdJorge wrote: post #246
the_af wrote: post #93

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The auto-dub feature is madness. I noticed it first a couple of days ago, I'm crossing my fingers that few authors choose to enable it, and that YouTube makes it easy to disable as a default in settings (not currently possible, you have to do it as you watch, every time). I'm in a Spanish speaking country, but I want to watch English videos in English. Auto-generated subtitles for other languages are ok, but I want t…

What about the auto translated titles? It also happens for chapters in the video... Sames languages as you. It drives me nuts because the translations are almost always wrong.

This “feature” amazes me. It is badly done and a bad idea. I haver never watched a dubbed video so why show me a translated title? It’s also surprising, Google has plenty ESL employees on staff.

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

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Post by ohdeargodno »

rcarmo wrote: post #143
Waraqa wrote: post #116

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See this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45359626

There are other embeddable JS engines out there.

And you're welcome to implement them and submit them as a PR.

The yt-dlp contributors are not in the business of writing or finding JS runtimes, they're trying to download videos.

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

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Post by einpoklum »

wraptile wrote: post #58

Days of just getting data off the web are coming to an end as everything requires a full browser running thousands of lines of obfuscated js code now. So instead of a website giving me that 1kb json that could be cached now I start a full browser stack and transmit 10 megabytes through 100 requests, messing up your analytics and security profile and everyone's a loser. Yay.

Those days are not coming to an end:

* PeerTube and similar platforms for video streaming of freely-distributable content;

* BitTorrent-based mechanisms for sharing large files (or similar protocols).

Will this be inconvenient? At first, somewhat. But I am led to believe that in the second category one can already achieve a decent experience.

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