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Re: Hardware is dead

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The manufacturer he failed to identify is most likely Shenzhen Lyric Pioneer ( http://www.lyxfsz.com/ ), which is behind dozens of the All Winner based Android tablets, under a wide variety of brand names. (One of their more amusing product pages: http://www.lyxfsz.com/en/products_view.htm?id=27 ... )

There are thousands of LyricPioneer-likes in ShenZhen. Which LyricPioneer do you mean?

Re: Hardware is dead

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[OT] Apropos the recent discussion on third-party requests and Adblock Plus, Ghostery and NoScript:

Wow, just wow. This website pulls in requests from 28 third-party sites and wants to run javascript from 21 third-party sites.

This abuse is why users have NoScript et al.

Re: Hardware is dead

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Hardware is dead; long live hardware. The free-fall in PC prices in the 90s "killed" the PC, except that every major PC manufacturer still sells high-end models, and retailers still make money on them. The free-fall in automotive prices in the 20s "killed" the automobile, except that people kept buying faster, sleeker, newer models anyway. Like so many other electronics and everyday devices, the commoditization of ta…

Have you read the whole article? The author is not disagreeing with you. He is very specifically agreeing with your point. Apple is selling more than just "hardware", they're not just selling a piece of metal and silicon. That's what the author is saying is dead. Doing what Apple does, selling hardware + software + brand, is what's still alive. So you and the author are not disagreeing. What he is saying is not that…

Well then he's not really saying anything then, is he? And perhaps the title should've been something a little less controversial.

Re: Hardware is dead

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read the whole article? The author is not disagreeing with you. He is very specifically agreeing with your point. Apple is selling more than just "hardware", they're not just selling a piece of metal and silicon. That's what the author is saying is dead. Doing what Apple does, selling hardware + software + brand, is what's still alive. So you and the author are not disagreeing. What he is saying is not that…

Well then he's not really saying anything then, is he? And perhaps the title should've been something a little less controversial.

> Well then he's not really saying anything then, is he?

What? He's clearly saying something. Hardware-only is dead.

Re: Hardware is dead

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

On sites like this the author doesn't come up with the title.

Why is that?

Traditionally, editors and subs write the titles. Many online news sites ape the model that preceded them in the print world (except for the part about employing editors with a talent for actual editing).

Re: Hardware is dead

#147

Hardware will die, when web sites or apps will give them for free (as a true commodity). Imagine, you get a nexus tablet when you sign up for Gmail or Google Apps.

I can imagine something like every shopping trolley having a tablet built into the handle that shows the store layout,specials near you, etc. Would be pretty neat

http://www.news.com.au/technology/well-aisle-be-its-a-smart-...

I'm sure there is better out there though!

Re: Hardware is dead

#148
Almost a month ago, I ordered one of the $55 (well, I think it was $58) A13-based tablets from a vendor on AliExpress. It arrived today. So far, it's better quality than the "Matrix One" tablet that was $100 two months ago.

It's flat-out amazing that I can get a not-GREAT-but-perfectly-functional touchscreen multimedia computer with wireless Internet access for slightly more than it costs for a tank of gas. If this trend continues, they'll be giving away tablets in cereal boxes by 2014.

Re: Hardware is dead

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So I've decided to try the experiment. Ordered a 7" android tablet - http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-discount-price-Free-ship... described as running ice cream sandwich from aliexpress for $57.68, with free shipping.

It's not quite $45, although it looks like I could've got that price if I didn't need shipping.

Should be interesting to see what I get and how cheaply made (or not) it is.

Re: Hardware is dead

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post #141
post #137

The manufacturer he failed to identify is most likely Shenzhen Lyric Pioneer ( http://www.lyxfsz.com/ ), which is behind dozens of the All Winner based Android tablets, under a wide variety of brand names. (One of their more amusing product pages: http://www.lyxfsz.com/en/products_view.htm?id=27 ... )

There are thousands of LyricPioneer-likes in ShenZhen. Which LyricPioneer do you mean?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Is the name common? (Google doesn't seem to find anyone else using that name in English, but that doesn't need to say much). In any case, the website URL I provided makes the reference unique, down to the address.

If you mean there are lots of similar products from other sources, then maybe. But pretty much all of the cheap Android tablet models that make it to Europe at least use the exact same board design (identical PCBs, apart from minor changes depending on features, but even most differences between models is accounted for by what components are mounted on the PCB, not differences in board design), the same handful of cases, and the same Android distribution and the same model numbers - everything points to a single source for the ones sold in the UK at least, but maybe none of the other manufacturers bothers with the export market.

I've seen nobody dig up any alternative manufacturers of these specific models over the last couple of years. There may be a few others, but the AllWinner based tablets soldin Europe seems to be pretty much from a single source. If you see a large number of different brands, that doesn't really say anything - that's the case for the ones shipped to Europe too.

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