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Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by bashy »

Will be very similar to this type of abuse report someone got on their Hetzner server (even though it had no piracy activity);

> On 27 Nov 23:27, operations@friendmts.com wrote: To whom it may concern:

Our reference: PRB-XXXXXX Security Code: 2x364371x-x45x-59x2-8760-32x46276790

Access to the IP address detailed below has been blocked in the United Kingdom by court order.

The block will apply to: IP Address: 95.217.118.31 For all Premier League Match Periods Until: 07 Dec 2020

Further notifications will not be sent about this IP address unless and until further infringements are detected after the date and time indicated above, though the IP address will remain subject to blocking until then. If your organisation is planning to reallocate this IP address to another customer before the date listed above, please notify us at ipallocation@friendmts.com with the appropriate information so that we can consider releasing the IP from subsequent blocking.

A copy of the court order, which was obtained by the Football Association Premier League Limited is available here: https://www.fmtsoperations.com/HC-2017-002013-ORDER.PDF

Any affected server operator or hosting provider has the right to apply to the Court to discharge or vary the Order.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by sofixa »

riffraff wrote: post #101
sofixa wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I hate that football is the default sport It is the default sport because the barrier to entry is basically having a ball. Random rocks, backpacks, whatever you have can serve as the goalposts. Most other sports require other equipment too (volleyball needs the net, basketball the hoop, etc. etc.). It's also easy to understand, and being the most popular sport by far in most countries, allows for an easy appropriat…

also football can be played in basically any number, from 1:1 to 11:11, which means you can go out with a ball, meet one other kid and play, and random other kids can just join in. I've literally seen kids unable to speak with each other because of different languages able to join a match :) I was terrible at football as a kid so it's not like it did much for me, but one cannot deny how universal the game is.

That's true. It's not unique to football (same can be applied to basketball and volleyball and etc.) but it's one more advantage.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by eightysixfour »

piltdownman wrote: post #82
Phemist wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, does that also mean bars have to police what people are watching on their phone, otherwise risking big fines? E.g. I go to the pub, have a drink and watch some random LaLiga match on my phone?

No, the bar pays something like 10x the price of a normal subscription to be able to publicly show live Sports as a draw for their customers. In UK/Ireland you can easily identify if the venue in question is paying for the commercial package as it will intermittently display a pint glass symbol in a bottom corner of the screen. Indeed, Sky investigators, who do spot checks, use it to quickly ensure that the pub has a…

I don't believe that's what OP is asking, they mean to ask about the following scenario:

1. Someone sitting next to you in a bar is playing a match on their phone, but the bar is not.

2. Your phone has the app installed and hears the match.

3. La Liga sues the bar?

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by kps »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #21
Lucasoato wrote: post #5

In Italy something similar is happening: they have split the football game rights among different competitors, so that if you want to watch every game you have to spend >100€ monthly (that's very high for our economy). To this, add the facts that there has been a major hit to illegal streaming piracy and that football games are getting extremely boring in our country (compared to the Premier League or our Serie A of…

> they have split the football game rights among different competitors, so that if you want to watch every game you have to spend >100€ monthly It's the same for anime, and guess what, I just pirate and pay no one.

Anime has long had a model where shows are ‘free’ (historically, on broadcast TV) and the money comes from sales of disks, manga, and other merchandise. (On the other hand, Japan has copyright laws that make the US look laid back.)

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by EbNar »

Lucasoato wrote: post #5

In Italy something similar is happening: they have split the football game rights among different competitors, so that if you want to watch every game you have to spend >100€ monthly (that's very high for our economy). To this, add the facts that there has been a major hit to illegal streaming piracy and that football games are getting extremely boring in our country (compared to the Premier League or our Serie A of…

> newest generations aren't giving a shit anymore about football, much less than their parents and grandparents.

These are good news, tbh.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by bilekas »

eptcyka wrote: post #113
bilekas wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not identifiable info maybe ?

It is.

Are we sure ? I'm not disputing it, but is geo location alone as a data point covered GDPR ?

I'll have to look that up, but as someone else said it's only enforced at EU member state level, however there is another central oversight to ensure it's enforced.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by throw0101d »

dabeeeenster wrote: post #65

Related (7 years ago): https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/8q1j0o/la_liga_uses... - Bars, pubs and other public establishments have to pay around 200€/month in order to show football on their TVs while the household package goes between 10 and 30€/month. - The official app, with over 10 million downloads, asks you for microphone and GPS permissions. - La Liga remotely activates the microphone and tries to detect…

> In addition, it uses the geolocation of the phone to locate exactly where the establishment is located.

How much do GPS/Galileo/GNSS jammers go for nowadays?

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by hyperman1 »

I see 2 nasties here:

On one hand, this is a clear overreach of the courts: They gave a private party the right to censor random sources without judicial oversight.

On the other hand, the courts still need to judicate in their respective countries. If cloudflare says: We're in another country so the courts cant make us block illegal things, well, the courts have to overblock or they lose the ability to enforce their decisions.

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