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Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by outside2344 »

dabeeeenster wrote: post #65

Related (7 years ago): https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/8q1j0o/la_liga_uses... - Bars, pubs and other public establishments have to pay around 200€/month in order to show football on their TVs while the household package goes between 10 and 30€/month. - The official app, with over 10 million downloads, asks you for microphone and GPS permissions. - La Liga remotely activates the microphone and tries to detect…

There has to be a EU privacy violation in there somewhere right? Or does that not count for giant EU companies?

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by yorwba »

xg15 wrote: post #43
pfortuny wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but the problem is that you want to watch football live, and LaLiga is harming lots of unrelated businesses with this approach.

Couldn't they sue LaLiga for damages? Only because a court grants you some power you aren't absolved from the responsibilities that come with that power, or are you?

If you're a Cloudflare customer who suffers damages when LaLiga obtains a DNS block for Cloudflare IPs used for pirate streams, you'll have better chances suing Cloudflare for failing to provide the service you're paying them for (of course if you're on a free plan, you don't have much of a leg to stand on).

One Cloudflare customer doing something illegal is only able to cause this much collateral damage because Cloudflare is set up so that taking down one customer requires taking down most of their infrastructure. But what works for DDoS protection doesn't work so well for legally mandated blocks. I think at some point Cloudflare will have to start kicking pirate streams off their platform faster if they want to stay up.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by riffraff »

zwirbl wrote: post #19
rootsu wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, Serie A started streaming all matches free on YouTube for SEA countries. https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1nf7ghg/serie_a_ann...

So only a VPN is needed?

the theory was that YT has pretty good VPN detection. But they stopped doing it immediately, so probably that didn't work out.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by whatevaa »

outside2344 wrote: post #91
dabeeeenster wrote: post #65

Related (7 years ago): https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/8q1j0o/la_liga_uses... - Bars, pubs and other public establishments have to pay around 200€/month in order to show football on their TVs while the household package goes between 10 and 30€/month. - The official app, with over 10 million downloads, asks you for microphone and GPS permissions. - La Liga remotely activates the microphone and tries to detect…

There has to be a EU privacy violation in there somewhere right? Or does that not count for giant EU companies?

GDPR is enforced by country itself and this racket is supported by government, so... You would need to sue whole country.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by nromiun »

addandsubtract wrote: post #86
nromiun wrote: post #49

That is wild. Which other country gives a private body the power to ban any IP address for the entire country?

I mean, the power was given by the court, so you could argue that the ISPs are just following court orders. On the other hand, there's SpaceX which has the power to block an entire country from accessing the internet.

You could only say that if the IP address list was given by the court to the ISPs.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by Angostura »

outside2344 wrote: post #91
dabeeeenster wrote: post #65

Related (7 years ago): https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/8q1j0o/la_liga_uses... - Bars, pubs and other public establishments have to pay around 200€/month in order to show football on their TVs while the household package goes between 10 and 30€/month. - The official app, with over 10 million downloads, asks you for microphone and GPS permissions. - La Liga remotely activates the microphone and tries to detect…

There has to be a EU privacy violation in there somewhere right? Or does that not count for giant EU companies?

It’s not personal data.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by NickC25 »

zokier wrote: post #15
lifestyleguru wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it looks like a self resolving problem? As a bonus football hooligans and football vandalism will disappear, and hopefully kids will be encouraged to do more creative activities than kicking a ball.

On the other hand kids (and adults) not getting enough exercise is a modern health crisis. More kids kicking a ball would be significant improvement over current status quo of kids staring at brainrot.

agree. im american and i see a bunch of youth in major cities who are clearly unhealthy.

sport should be encouraged. i get that not everyone likes it, and not everyone will enjoy it (and even fewer will be good enough to actually enjoy it), but encouraging physical activity instead of playing on phones is a good thing.

i was a nerd growing up (still am) and i sucked at sports (still do). i still enjoyed doing them and knew that physical activity was beneficial.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by gloosx »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #88
gloosx wrote: post #83

Football is wild. Imagine countries and governments collect taxes. Then they use the taxes to buy petroleum products from Qatar. Then Qatar spends €262 millions on a single football player and gazillions on a European club, which is at €889 million loss over the last five years In the end, who is paying for it all? Ordinary people ultimately foot the bill – whether through higher energy prices, taxes, or the opportun…

> Then they use the taxes to buy petroleum products from Qatar. This isn't how the energy market works.

Fair point, governments don't literally wire tax money straight to Qatar for oil.

But whether it is at the pump or through subsidies, it is still ordinary people who end up carrying the cost — and that money gets recycled into football vanity projects.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by NickC25 »

madaxe_again wrote: post #69
Hendrikto wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they have split the football game rights among different competitors, so that if you want to watch every game you have to spend >100€ monthly Same in Germany. > newest generations aren't giving a shit anymore about football Also the same in Germany. But I am not sure which direction the causality goes. Maybe people are less interested in football because of the shenanigans they are constantly pulling. Or maybe they…

I think it’s most likely that football is honestly a bit shit, and there are many better things to do for entertainment that don’t require mortgaging a kidney to watch.

try going to germany, where you can get a season ticket at top club for a few hundred euros.

i think Bayern Munich's cheapest season ticket is like $200 at the current exchange rate. that's manageable. i've paid more than that for a single NFL game in OK-ish seats.

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