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Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by BoredPositron »

doublerabbit wrote: post #70
BoredPositron wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Come on dude it's on the same page just below the initial summary which seems to be the only thing you bothered to read. It's even big bullet pointy for the attention starved... >> German men’s football remains the most attended sport in the country by far. It is also a key driver of the overall attendance figures, with the top three professional leagues alone accounting for 46% of the growth since 2017/18.

I'm bias. Born and raised in England, the nation of football, and I loathe football. The hooligan shenanigans we cause in other countries pisses me off. There is no respect. I got pushed on the subway the other day because of some local match. Some drunken twat thought I was someone who supported the rival opposition and nearly dragged me off the opposite escalator. I can't wait for football to die, I partake in spor…

Totally fine. Still no need to spread FUD/misinformation.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by lyu07282 »

CodesInChaos wrote: post #40

I find it interesting that cloudflare is okay with those piracy sites getting its shared IPs blocked, while a couple of years ago they forced a casino to shell out for the enterprise plan and dedicated IPs to contain the fallout of banned IPs.

They are not okay with it, they first in march tried to get it annulled that was rejected by the courts [1]. Now they are appealing in the constitutional court [2]. Spanish sources:

[1] https://www.genbeta.com/actualidad/gol-laliga-a-cloudflare-j...

[2] https://www.xataka.com/legislacion-y-derechos/bloqueos-ip-la...

Cloudflare also said they are prepared to go all the way to EU courts if necessary.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by rootsu »

average_r_user wrote: post #66
rootsu wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, Serie A started streaming all matches free on YouTube for SEA countries. https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1nf7ghg/serie_a_ann...

They pulled the plug on the project almost right away. Apparently, it had something to do with YouTube not being able to limit the live stream to Southeast Asian countries without it leaking to the rest of the world—where you’d need a pricey subscription to watch the game.

Oh, I didn't know that they pulled the plug.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by watwut »

CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #24
lifestyleguru wrote: post #11

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So it looks like a self resolving problem? As a bonus football hooligans and football vandalism will disappear, and hopefully kids will be encouraged to do more creative activities than kicking a ball.

> As a bonus football hooligans and football vandalism will disappear, You think these people would suddenly stop needing an outlet for their emotions? They'll find a different way of doing the same thing, around a different theme. If you've hanged out with people who are proud to be hooligans and ultras today, you'd see how removing football wouldn't get them to stop.

> You think these people would suddenly stop needing an outlet for their emotions?

It is not an outlet for emotions that would need to be expressed similarly. It on itself creates emotions and social structures that make those expressions violent.

> They'll find a different way of doing the same thing, around a different theme.

Some of them will, some of them wont. They wont be in such a large pack in the same place at the same time. There will be less peer pressure to participate in these groups on young men and less validation.

They will have much harder time to organize too.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by mlinhares »

Lucasoato wrote: post #5

In Italy something similar is happening: they have split the football game rights among different competitors, so that if you want to watch every game you have to spend >100€ monthly (that's very high for our economy). To this, add the facts that there has been a major hit to illegal streaming piracy and that football games are getting extremely boring in our country (compared to the Premier League or our Serie A of…

100 euros monthly is going to be very high anywhere, this is completely insane.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by piltdownman »

Lucasoato wrote: post #5

In Italy something similar is happening: they have split the football game rights among different competitors, so that if you want to watch every game you have to spend >100€ monthly (that's very high for our economy). To this, add the facts that there has been a major hit to illegal streaming piracy and that football games are getting extremely boring in our country (compared to the Premier League or our Serie A of…

In Ireland it's closer to €200/month just for Soccer depending on who you support. As a result 1 in 5 homes in Ireland admit to having a 'dodgy box' - i.e. an android or SoC box capable of running an IPTV Subscription pirating live Digital TV and various streaming services. These are usually sold as an annual subscription for €50-100 in pubs and on places like facebook marketplace.

The Irish Legal Community has already raised issues with how Sky is going about tracking down infringement at the user level, as they have an appalling record in this area and are likely to try and emulate the egregious situation in Spain to mitigate or retaliate.

https://www.lawsociety.ie/gazette/top-stories/2025/june/dodg... https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/0619/1519317-data-prote...

What's even more ridiculous is the "3pm blackout" rule which prevents football matches from being shown on UK television between 14:45 and 17:15 on Saturdays when 50% of fixtures in the top two divisions are scheduled to kick off at 15:00. The policy was introduced in the 1960s to encourage fans to attend lower league games - and it remains in force even in the globalised streaming era. Sadly the rights-holders can't be bothered splitting the package for Ireland, so we get to pay more for SkySports and still have to buy additional services.

In short, piracy is always a service issue. As a soccer fan going legit you'd possibly need to maintain a Sky Sports, BT Sport, TNT Sports and Premier Sports subscription. God forbid you want screen-casting support or 4K resolution.

In Ireland you STILL can't purchase/watch UFC PPVs as one-offs, there isn't a way for you to watch it legally the next day or live as a single event. The only way would be to get a subscription to a big provider like SkyTV or NOW!

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by erremerre »

aosaigh wrote: post #57

I might be naive, but this is absolutely outrageous. What laws allow a private company dictate what IPs can be banned across an entire country? Are the ISPs voluntarily cooperating or are they now all obliged to follow LaLiga requests?

ISP with the right to football goes to court to report themselves (not a joke) about piracy happening in their networks.

An old man judge which understand technology as much as I understand biochemistry (nothing) decides that they need to stop piracy, His solution is to give laliga the power to block those illegal streams, that all ISP must comply for the time that a match exist. The judge covers himself by saying, that the blockage can't affect third parties.

All ISP happy comply. It does affect third parties.

Cloudflare (third party) puts a recourse to say that it is affecting their business. The very same old man, decides, that is not going to proceed with that investigation.

So cloudflare needs to to through a different slower legal procedure.

Meanwhile, we have a company with the authority to block what they want thanks to corruption.

Re: My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on

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Post by Phemist »

dabeeeenster wrote: post #65

Related (7 years ago): https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/8q1j0o/la_liga_uses... - Bars, pubs and other public establishments have to pay around 200€/month in order to show football on their TVs while the household package goes between 10 and 30€/month. - The official app, with over 10 million downloads, asks you for microphone and GPS permissions. - La Liga remotely activates the microphone and tries to detect…

Wait, does that also mean bars have to police what people are watching on their phone, otherwise risking big fines?

E.g. I go to the pub, have a drink and watch some random LaLiga match on my phone?

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