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Top Programming Languages 2025

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Re: Top Programming Languages 2025

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Post by lmm »

kriiuuu wrote: post #125
lmm wrote: post #90

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Scala is the best language I've ever used - all the good parts of Typescript and all the good parts of Java or Rust. And fintech is one of the few niches where you might still be able to find a job using it.

We use Scala as well and are very happy with it. We also have a lot of TS, and at this point we are tempted to just switch to using ScalaJS on the frontend as well because of how much better the language is to use. It feels like Scala 3 fixed a lot of issues people had with the language. The IDE tooling isn’t the best, but even then it feels like the IDE tooling for TS breaks all the time once the project is large en…

> We also have a lot of TS, and at this point we are tempted to just switch to using ScalaJS on the frontend as well because of how much better the language is to use.

I did that and highly recommend it, at least for new projects - not sure that it's worth the effort of porting an existing project, but ScalaJS just works and I found far fewer rough edges than I expected.

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Post by zabzonk »

stevenjgarner wrote: post #145
PaulRobinson wrote: post #120

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By far the most useful and helpful is job ads: it literally defines the demand side of the programming language market. Yes, that does not show us how much code is running out there, and some companies might have huge armies with very low churn and so the COBOL stacks in banks don’t show up, but I can’t think of a more useful and directly measurable way of understanding a languages real utility.

Yes to your point, COBOL which ranks very low here is still fundamental to the infrastructure of several major industries, with some sources [1] reporting that it is used in: 43% of all banking systems. 95% of all US ATM transactions. 80% of all in-person credit card transactions. 96% of travel bookings. This may very well dramatically change in the next few years with such an emphasis on enterprise AI tools to rewri…

In retail banking I'm sure that this could be true. Working in investment banking, I never saw a single COBOL application, or had to have my C++/Java/$MODERNLANGUAGE code interact with one.

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Post by mirekrusin »

torben-friis wrote: post #22

As a backend dev (mostly working in fintech) I feel weirdly unable to find a target language to move to. After working with Node and Ruby for a while I really miss a static type system. - Typescript was limited by its option to allow non strictness. Nothing catches my eye, as it’s either Java/.Net and its enterprisey companies or Go, which might not be old but feels like it is, by design. Rust sounds fun, but its use…

Moonbit lang is currently the best language I've seen (not a joke).

Re: Top Programming Languages 2025

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Post by tannhaeuser »

torben-friis wrote: post #22

As a backend dev (mostly working in fintech) I feel weirdly unable to find a target language to move to. After working with Node and Ruby for a while I really miss a static type system. - Typescript was limited by its option to allow non strictness. Nothing catches my eye, as it’s either Java/.Net and its enterprisey companies or Go, which might not be old but feels like it is, by design. Rust sounds fun, but its use…

What's wrong with Java? It's used everywhere from FinTech startups to banks/insurers, with features like decimal arithmetic introduced specially for finance a long time ago, multiple runtimes (Oracle/JVM, IBM T9, GraalVM), a very healthy ecosystem of libs/packages, etc.

Re: Top Programming Languages 2025

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Post by ksec »

torben-friis wrote: post #22

As a backend dev (mostly working in fintech) I feel weirdly unable to find a target language to move to. After working with Node and Ruby for a while I really miss a static type system. - Typescript was limited by its option to allow non strictness. Nothing catches my eye, as it’s either Java/.Net and its enterprisey companies or Go, which might not be old but feels like it is, by design. Rust sounds fun, but its use…

You may want to look into Crystal.

Re: Top Programming Languages 2025

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Post by whstl »

rootlocus wrote: post #78
channel_t wrote: post #6

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I agree, I think it makes most sense to add them up to be the true #2.

Then you should probably add kotlin and java together as well. They share the same purpose, use the same VM, usually live in the same project, have native compatibility, are used with the same frameworks, etc.

True. Pretty much every Kotlin recruitment message I got was because of past Java experience, so the job market seems to agree with you.

Re: Top Programming Languages 2025

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Post by ksec »

Comparing 2024 and 2025, Ruby is growing again but still on the lower end of spectrum.

Both Java the language and JVM is great. A lot of the important work for JVM just landed. I am not even sure if there are anything that is really missing anymore. But the whole ecosystem is so vast I wonder if anyone would want to just craft out a subset of Java.

No Zig, Crystal, Odin, but Julia and Elixir is there just without numbers.

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