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After 50 years, The Magic Circle finally inducts Penn and Teller

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Re: After 50 years, The Magic Circle finally inducts Penn and Teller

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Post by the_af »

adastra22 wrote: post #69
JKCalhoun wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, it was probably what pissed off the Magic Circle. https://youtu.be/i0m8CC7Ovj8

The Magic Circle absolutely does not like revealing the trick. Penn and Teller are all about revealing the trick. They see it more or less as their moral duty to make sure you know THERE IS NO MAGIC HERE. I've always respected them a great amount for that. I'm glad that The Magic Circle finally came around.

Do they reveal "novel" tricks they didn't create?

It's one thing to reveal standards like the cups and ball, but another entirely different to spoil a recent trick a living magician is still making money off. I don't think they do the latter.

The balls and cups with transparent cups is still amazing, by the way.

Re: After 50 years, The Magic Circle finally inducts Penn and Teller

#102

Post by simondotau »

vanderZwan wrote: post #96
simondotau wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's plenty of video of Teller speaking. Being mute is a stage performance thing, not a mystical lifestyle choice.

So? It's still similar to meeting the actor playing a favorite character in a movie or series. Some people prefer to never stop suspending their disbelief and that's also fine.

When Teller chooses to be in character is a choice for him to make, not his fans. I'm merely describing reality, not expressing a preference. Don't shoot the messenger.

Re: After 50 years, The Magic Circle finally inducts Penn and Teller

#103

Post by adastra22 »

the_af wrote: post #101
adastra22 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Magic Circle absolutely does not like revealing the trick. Penn and Teller are all about revealing the trick. They see it more or less as their moral duty to make sure you know THERE IS NO MAGIC HERE. I've always respected them a great amount for that. I'm glad that The Magic Circle finally came around.

Do they reveal "novel" tricks they didn't create? It's one thing to reveal standards like the cups and ball, but another entirely different to spoil a recent trick a living magician is still making money off. I don't think they do the latter. The balls and cups with transparent cups is still amazing, by the way.

They do not reveal other, living magician's tricks.

Re: After 50 years, The Magic Circle finally inducts Penn and Teller

#104

Post by em-bee »

the_af wrote: post #100
em-bee wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

watching this particular episode one might get the impression they are just trying to make fun of other magicians...

On Fool Us they do their own acts as well. And what's remarkable to me is how nice they are to the other magicians, how willing to help and celebrate them, never heckle them. These are genuinely cool guys.

yes, fool us is remarkably different. but then, the whole show is designed to showcase and celebrate others. that older show wasn't. it's like they have grown up.

Re: After 50 years, The Magic Circle finally inducts Penn and Teller

#105

Post by jcattle »

7thpower wrote: post #35
iambateman wrote: post #15

The show Fool Us is wonderful…and this clip in particular is my favorite: https://youtu.be/5_KcQt0z-eE?si=xO5gTByzV0spzS2e

I was only half way paying attention because I was enjoying the joy of everyone around him. I wonder if it will hold up the next time I watch. I keep notes for my daughters to read some day and wrote about this tonight (it’s been too long since I wrote them), I hope this video will still be around when they are ready to read the notes so they can experience it too.

As someone who has watched this video approximately 100 times already I can tell you: it holds up.

Re: After 50 years, The Magic Circle finally inducts Penn and Teller

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Post by vanderZwan »

simondotau wrote: post #102
vanderZwan wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So? It's still similar to meeting the actor playing a favorite character in a movie or series. Some people prefer to never stop suspending their disbelief and that's also fine.

When Teller chooses to be in character is a choice for him to make, not his fans. I'm merely describing reality, not expressing a preference. Don't shoot the messenger.

Nobody is "shooting" any "messengers", I'm just raising an eyebrow at messengers who state the obvious with a tone as if I'm a child who still believes in Santa Claus. I genuinely do not see how you managed to conclude that I needed to be explained that the muteness is an act.

Do you understand the difference between rationally knowing something is an act and the experience of actually seeing an actor out of an acting context?

Re: After 50 years, The Magic Circle finally inducts Penn and Teller

#107

Post by the_af »

adastra22 wrote: post #103
the_af wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they reveal "novel" tricks they didn't create? It's one thing to reveal standards like the cups and ball, but another entirely different to spoil a recent trick a living magician is still making money off. I don't think they do the latter. The balls and cups with transparent cups is still amazing, by the way.

They do not reveal other, living magician's tricks.

So all's good in my book then!

Re: After 50 years, The Magic Circle finally inducts Penn and Teller

#108

Post by 7thpower »

onlypassingthru wrote: post #55
7thpower wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was only half way paying attention because I was enjoying the joy of everyone around him. I wonder if it will hold up the next time I watch. I keep notes for my daughters to read some day and wrote about this tonight (it’s been too long since I wrote them), I hope this video will still be around when they are ready to read the notes so they can experience it too.

May I suggest a little yt-dlp and an external HD to go along with those notes? A digital archive doesn't have to be restricted to family photos.

;)
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