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Podman Desktop celebrates 3M downloads

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Re: Podman Desktop celebrates 3M downloads

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I've seen podman advertised as a dropin docker replacement. how valid is that assertion?

I wasted my time trying podman and switched to colima. It's the only usable free alternative that's a true drop-in replacement for docker.

colima is great. I've also had good luck with rancher-desktop too.

Re: Podman Desktop celebrates 3M downloads

#22

I'm glad they have podman desktop. Personally though, once I realized that I can use the command line version without it (unlike docker in my experience) I uninstalled it as I don't really need the UI / KIND, etc. For me the command line is fine and having something where I don't have to first shell into wsl is great (it just runs it itself behind the scenes). Of course, Linux is generally better for development imo…

I'm the same. I just use Docker/Podman from the terminal. I know some people really like the GUI but I've never been able to find a workflow better than the cli with some scripts or compose.

Cool for Podman Desktop though.

Re: Podman Desktop celebrates 3M downloads

#25
post #20

I'm glad they have podman desktop. Personally though, once I realized that I can use the command line version without it (unlike docker in my experience) I uninstalled it as I don't really need the UI / KIND, etc. For me the command line is fine and having something where I don't have to first shell into wsl is great (it just runs it itself behind the scenes). Of course, Linux is generally better for development imo…

For mac, wouldn't it be just easier to use lima from cli? How does Podman compare to that? Docker unless on Linux has always being a bloat. Or are there any lightweight hypervisor on top of firecracker alternative? At this point with the way systemd is going, we should just switch back to VM? Everything is just more mature on native OS install. Docker to Linux, just feels kinda like SPA reinventing the html parsing o…

I used colima cli on M1-M2 Mac. A few memory related settings were required as some of old apps were huge. But apart from that it worked great. Nothing bad podman, just preferred colima.

Re: Podman Desktop celebrates 3M downloads

#26
post #6

I've seen podman advertised as a dropin docker replacement. how valid is that assertion?

It almost is, the first change you'd see is understanding that each container is a separate process and thus for it to auto start you'd need to generate systemd service files. podman has an autogenerator for this, so it is 'just' two extra commands on the terminal but something easy to miss when you are starting out.

Re: Podman Desktop celebrates 3M downloads

#27
post #20

I'm glad they have podman desktop. Personally though, once I realized that I can use the command line version without it (unlike docker in my experience) I uninstalled it as I don't really need the UI / KIND, etc. For me the command line is fine and having something where I don't have to first shell into wsl is great (it just runs it itself behind the scenes). Of course, Linux is generally better for development imo…

For mac, wouldn't it be just easier to use lima from cli? How does Podman compare to that? Docker unless on Linux has always being a bloat. Or are there any lightweight hypervisor on top of firecracker alternative? At this point with the way systemd is going, we should just switch back to VM? Everything is just more mature on native OS install. Docker to Linux, just feels kinda like SPA reinventing the html parsing o…

Brew install podman? CLI only, no lima/colima or gui required.

Re: Podman Desktop celebrates 3M downloads

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> unlike docker in my experience You have piqued my curiosity. What does Docker Desktop do that the CLI cannot?

Since they mention Windows, I believe this is a reference to the fact that you cannot (easily) install the Docker CLI without Docker Desktop. Podman does not have this issue.

You absolutely can run docker on the CLI in WSL2. The only requirement is you have systemd running in your WSL distro, which is fully supported.

Re: Podman Desktop celebrates 3M downloads

#29

Why podman and not Docker?

I run rootless containers on a low-power system.

With Docker, I found rootless setup to be a PITA, despite having experience with unprivileged LXC containers. The manager daemon constantly consumed system resources even when no containers were running. Docker upgrades sometimes refused to run my containers until I chased down whatever storage driver problem they introduced in the latest version.

When the most recent upgrade broke my containers yet again, I decided to give Podman a try. Setup was a breeze. There is no management daemon wasting resources. My containers just worked. Even the little cron script I wrote to query Docker for pending image updates just worked with Podman tools.

I think Podman also makes it easy to map host uids to non-root container uids, which ought to help me reduce attack surface. (I haven't actually tried this feature yet.) Last time I checked, Docker did not.

So far, I couldn't be happier.

Re: Podman Desktop celebrates 3M downloads

#30
post #6

I've seen podman advertised as a dropin docker replacement. how valid is that assertion?

I use podman desktop on Windows for common development stuff as drop in replacement. I switched due to licensing as I guess universities do not fall under the licencing exceptions. I actually also use the docker CLI, particularly docker compose. I was motivated to do the same on one of our Debian vms, because I could more install podmap via standard apt sources, i hoped that it doesn't mess to that much with the IP stack and it is a bit closer to K8s which I still deemed as overkill. However, trying to install e.g. komo.do via podman compose was a total fail. Even after fixing socket locations, etc, I would see weird behavior. So yes, it is a clear 'almost'. However, the critical cases can become easily very frustrating. Again, on my windows laptop with WSL2 it works like a charm, but there I also do not run server deployments that need to work reliably out of the box.
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