I'm glad they have podman desktop. Personally though, once I realized that I can use the command line version without it (unlike docker in my experience) I uninstalled it as I don't really need the UI / KIND, etc. For me the command line is fine and having something where I don't have to first shell into wsl is great (it just runs it itself behind the scenes). Of course, Linux is generally better for development imo but this is a nice compromise on Windows.
Podman Desktop celebrates 3M downloads
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's free? Can run rootless?
Better integration with systemd
That's funny. To me one of the whole point of containers is that it's not systemd that's PID1.
Combine that with a distro like Talos, an immutable Linux distro that contains less than ten executables and where none of them is systemd and...
At long last containers and stuff like Talos show a path leading to, in a not-so-distant future, a world where we can be systemd and [ini]/microsoft config files (from a microsoft employee btw) free again.
Re: Podman Desktop celebrates 3M downloads
#13I've seen podman advertised as a dropin docker replacement. how valid is that assertion?
I had a brief period of setup pain and then have never looked back, though have occasionally wished that feature parity came a little quicker. Podman is in many ways a delight, simpler in what it does in the general case and yet as powerful as docker or more.
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#14Congratulations to the podman team!
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#15I'm glad they have podman desktop. Personally though, once I realized that I can use the command line version without it (unlike docker in my experience) I uninstalled it as I don't really need the UI / KIND, etc. For me the command line is fine and having something where I don't have to first shell into wsl is great (it just runs it itself behind the scenes). Of course, Linux is generally better for development imo…
> unlike docker in my experience
You have piqued my curiosity. What does Docker Desktop do that the CLI cannot?
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#16Why podman and not Docker?
On Snapdragon / ARM Windows, it is the only game in town -- and it works great too!
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#17I've seen podman advertised as a dropin docker replacement. how valid is that assertion?
Mostly valid. There are a few gotchas but for most use cases it is drop-in.
I think I've run into issues with the podman socket, and there were some permissions problems I had getting games-on-whales setup in userspace.
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#18I'm glad they have podman desktop. Personally though, once I realized that I can use the command line version without it (unlike docker in my experience) I uninstalled it as I don't really need the UI / KIND, etc. For me the command line is fine and having something where I don't have to first shell into wsl is great (it just runs it itself behind the scenes). Of course, Linux is generally better for development imo…
> unlike docker in my experience You have piqued my curiosity. What does Docker Desktop do that the CLI cannot?
Since they mention Windows, I believe this is a reference to the fact that you cannot (easily) install the Docker CLI without Docker Desktop. Podman does not have this issue.
Re: Podman Desktop celebrates 3M downloads
#19I'm glad they have podman desktop. Personally though, once I realized that I can use the command line version without it (unlike docker in my experience) I uninstalled it as I don't really need the UI / KIND, etc. For me the command line is fine and having something where I don't have to first shell into wsl is great (it just runs it itself behind the scenes). Of course, Linux is generally better for development imo…
> unlike docker in my experience You have piqued my curiosity. What does Docker Desktop do that the CLI cannot?
`docker machine` was deprecated in favor of Docker Desktop in order to funnel people towards paid licenses. But there's no real reason Docker on non-Linux should need a GUI.
Re: Podman Desktop celebrates 3M downloads
#20I'm glad they have podman desktop. Personally though, once I realized that I can use the command line version without it (unlike docker in my experience) I uninstalled it as I don't really need the UI / KIND, etc. For me the command line is fine and having something where I don't have to first shell into wsl is great (it just runs it itself behind the scenes). Of course, Linux is generally better for development imo…
For mac, wouldn't it be just easier to use lima from cli? How does Podman compare to that? Docker unless on Linux has always being a bloat.
Or are there any lightweight hypervisor on top of firecracker alternative? At this point with the way systemd is going, we should just switch back to VM? Everything is just more mature on native OS install. Docker to Linux, just feels kinda like SPA reinventing the html parsing on top of a rendering engine.