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Re: Kitty – GPU based terminal emulator

#11

Post by jauntywundrkind »

lxe wrote: post #2

Kitty terminal can essentially replace a big part of a linux desktop environment, if you want it to. It's infinitely customizable AND has own opinions at the same time. Also my interactive scrollbar change was recently merged in, so if that was stopping you, you can now replace iTerm on your mac with it :)

My only guess is that this refers to graphical rendering support. https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/graphics-protocol/

I both see enormous value mixing text and console, and also worry that TUI will overcomplicate and add even more unnecessary embellishment than it already is trending towards? Semi grump opinion. But it feels weird introducing a new canvas.

I do like the idea of graphics being online in a terminal session. Not a captive app experience in a text/graphic UI, but just cli commands that can have some more visual output too.

Re: Kitty – GPU based terminal emulator

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Post by snickerdoodle14 »

Avshalom wrote: post #6
lxe wrote: post #2

Kitty terminal can essentially replace a big part of a linux desktop environment, if you want it to. It's infinitely customizable AND has own opinions at the same time. Also my interactive scrollbar change was recently merged in, so if that was stopping you, you can now replace iTerm on your mac with it :)

? what do you think we're doing with our desktop environments?

run terminals

Re: Kitty – GPU based terminal emulator

#14

Post by unpopularopp »

I'm probably the extreme minority on HN (0.00001%) but I pretty much never used any CLI applications. Just never really needed them. But recently at work (we use Macs) I had some tasks which need the Terminal.app so I kinda tried to dig in and learn some stuff but whenever I feel I already know something (more or less) there is always some new stuff entering the picture next day. Shell, console, terminal... now a terminal _emulator_ :insert exploding galaxy brain meme:

Re: Kitty – GPU based terminal emulator

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Post by JdeBP »

unpopularopp wrote: post #14

I'm probably the extreme minority on HN (0.00001%) but I pretty much never used any CLI applications. Just never really needed them. But recently at work (we use Macs) I had some tasks which need the Terminal.app so I kinda tried to dig in and learn some stuff but whenever I feel I already know something (more or less) there is always some new stuff entering the picture next day. Shell, console, terminal... now a ter…

They are all terminal emulators. You have probably, as one who has never used the command line, never touched an actual terminal.

Re: Kitty – GPU based terminal emulator

#16

Post by dfc »

SlightlyLeftPad wrote: post #9
fishgoesblub wrote: post #5

Unfortunately the dev intentionally refuses to add Bitmap font support for fonts like Terminus.

Is that because of a performance impact with rendering those possibly? Imm curious what the justification for or against is.

The developer is up front about the issue:

> One of kitty's fundamental features is the ability to display fonts at arbitrary font sizes, which bitmap fonts are not suited for.

> So if you like bitmap fonts, kitty is not for you.

It's hard to argue with that logic.

Re: Kitty – GPU based terminal emulator

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Post by hyperpl »

fishgoesblub wrote: post #5

Unfortunately the dev intentionally refuses to add Bitmap font support for fonts like Terminus.

Also realized this when trying to get terminus to work. I like the simplicity of foot in wayland and st/alacritty in Xorg. I wish I could find a terminus replacement and I do give it a few hours each year but still haven't had any luck...

Re: Kitty – GPU based terminal emulator

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Post by wkat4242 »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #11
lxe wrote: post #2

Kitty terminal can essentially replace a big part of a linux desktop environment, if you want it to. It's infinitely customizable AND has own opinions at the same time. Also my interactive scrollbar change was recently merged in, so if that was stopping you, you can now replace iTerm on your mac with it :)

My only guess is that this refers to graphical rendering support. https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/graphics-protocol/ I both see enormous value mixing text and console, and also worry that TUI will overcomplicate and add even more unnecessary embellishment than it already is trending towards? Semi grump opinion. But it feels weird introducing a new canvas. I do like the idea of graphics being online in a terminal sess…

It's not exactly new and it solves many problems of the older sixel protocol that stems from the age of DEC terminals way before full colour stuff.

Re: Kitty – GPU based terminal emulator

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Post by sorrythanks »

unpopularopp wrote: post #14

I'm probably the extreme minority on HN (0.00001%) but I pretty much never used any CLI applications. Just never really needed them. But recently at work (we use Macs) I had some tasks which need the Terminal.app so I kinda tried to dig in and learn some stuff but whenever I feel I already know something (more or less) there is always some new stuff entering the picture next day. Shell, console, terminal... now a ter…

"console", "terminal" and "terminal emulator" all refer to the same thing. "shell" is the read-eval-print-loop interface you use to work in the terminal.
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