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Re: I'm leaving Ruby Central

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Just a glimpse: > London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it's no longer full of native Brits [1] [1] https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64

Strange take for a Danish living in the US.

Re: I'm leaving Ruby Central

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In a word, yes.

What I don’t get is, what does Shopify get from this? I’m assuming there’s a ton of reputational risk in this move, and my understanding as an outsider is that Shopify already has a ton of weight in the Ruby ecosystem - they seem to be the one case quoted by everyone as the “proof that Ruby scales”.

They are a multi-billion company that is highly dependent of RubyGems and a breach could ruin their business. So they have intrinsic reasons to support anything that keeps Ruby and Rails floating.

Re: I'm leaving Ruby Central

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I’ve always acted as a community-oriented person, so I feel it’s my duty to share what really happened, what the current state is, and why Ruby Central has failed in the eyes of the community. This is my perspective — and why I’m leaving Ruby Central by choice, but am being forced out of Bundler, RubyGems, and RubyGems.org.

fwiw... rubygems.org was one of the only open source projects I contributed to on a regular basis (albeit once every year or two) and it was always a positive experience. Sorry its gone this way for you and others. This all reminds me of the feelings after Merb was put down after pressure from Engine Yard so they could guard against their Ruby on Rails hosting business.

Do you have a source for that? I always wondered why Merb disappeared, even after Katz refactored Rails to use ideas from Merb.

Re: I'm leaving Ruby Central

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There are arguably larger reputational risk issues in a company with significant financial/payment activities not having adequate control of their technology. I'm not saying that justifies anything here as I don't know nearly enough about, but I'd wager that even a minor incident arising from them not adequately controlling their stack would create infinitely more issues than this move.

If supply chain integrity is the issue specifically for Shopify, couldn’t they run their own private, internally facing gem repository and whitelist everything that goes there? It’s not a requirement to use the public rubygems.

That's not what I said. I was responding to the parent comment's statement that "I’m assuming there’s a ton of reputational risk in this move" by noting that, in relative terms, this likely isn't something people are paying attention to outside a very, very narrow universe.

Re: I'm leaving Ruby Central

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See also the incident ca. 2021 when a third of 37signals employees left the company over heavy-handed policing of employee speech[0].

0. https://www.platformer.news/-what-really-happened-at-basecam...

Re: I'm leaving Ruby Central

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In a word, yes.

What I don’t get is, what does Shopify get from this? I’m assuming there’s a ton of reputational risk in this move, and my understanding as an outsider is that Shopify already has a ton of weight in the Ruby ecosystem - they seem to be the one case quoted by everyone as the “proof that Ruby scales”.

Isn't most of the reputational risk going to Ruby Central?

Re: I'm leaving Ruby Central

#59

The solution is to design package managers around the uniform resource identifier: a way to locate online assets that is mostly (ignoring DNS) decentralised and better than having one org own all the packages.

That sounds like a neat idea. Do you have a proposal for that?

Would it be compatible with specifying urls (such as git repos)?

Re: I'm leaving Ruby Central

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> indirectly say that the person who wrote the piece is a bad writer or a good writer. A lot of the so-called tells are things that are more likely to be done by professional writers under the care of a professional editor. For example, many people assume the presence of an em dash means text was written by an LLM, when obviously LLMs did not invent punctuation marks.

Good writers who used em dashes before AI tend to use them the traditional way—with no space around them and to emphasize a parenthetical. AI uses it with spaces around it — as an all-purpose conjunction.

Yeah I use em dashes probably every day. It’s only recently that people have started taking issue with it lol
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