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Re: Notion 3.0

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Post by o_m »

baq wrote: post #18
bigtones wrote: post #7

Here is my bold prediction - Microsoft will try acquire Notion within a year. Notion seems have a lot of hype lately, and Microsoft tries to be king of the hill when it comes to productivity apps, buying tools encroaching upon their turf of Outlook and Excel (6 Wunderkinder, Yammer, Ally.io) or competing vigorously if they cant buy them (Teams). Seems like this Notion v3 could tip it over the edge into full blown pro…

I don't think there's anything Notion has that Microsoft wants.

They would want the user base, i.e. those who has gone out of their way to pick something different, than Microsoft/Atlassian, like Notion

Re: Notion 3.0

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Post by matznerd »

pembrook wrote: post #16
raincole wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The app you're looking for is Obsidian. Notion abandoned that goal years ago. Notion is making money for being a project management / team wiki. They don't care personal note taking.

But why would I want my team generating/reading AI slop in our Wiki??

I do writing with RAG and it can be implemented to suprisingly good if you already have your own writing that the text is being generated from. FAQs etc can be pretty easy when your content is context for the AI.

After a few rounds of AI generating AI content from AI content, I'm sure it could eventually become slop...like the model collapse lol idk.

"AI models collapse when trained on recursively generated data" - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07566-y

Re: Notion 3.0

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Post by stared »

Speaking about Notion, are there more developer-focused alternatives? I want to be able to write and sync Markdown. I would love to have something like Obsidian, but at the team level.

Re: Notion 3.0

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Post by abhaynayar »

I really like the web experience of Notion. (In terms of looks and feels). And it's probably the only note-taking app I like that syncs across everything automagically.

It would've really helped if they worked on improving their subpar mobile apps, but instead they are focusing on AI features.

(Which, I don't see much incremental benefit in paying for separately, if I already pay for other AI subs like chatgpt).

Re: Notion 3.0

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Post by OhioMan2943 »

shminge wrote: post #20
OhioMan2943 wrote: post #17

Plugging notesnook- it's in between notion and obsidian and doesn't steal your data

What does it give you that Obsidian can't?

Better chapter style organisation and easier formatting- and the style is better for life/academic planning for me whereas obsidian is more for writing/personal wiki type things for me

Re: Notion 3.0

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Post by paultnylund »

dostick wrote: post #11
raincole wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> is there any reason to use Notion if you don't need the collaboration features I assume the alternative here is Obsidian. It does have features that Obsidian doesn't have (like better URL preview). But it's mostly UI stuff. If you literally just want to manage some .md notes I'd say there isn't a reason to use Notion.

Also there’s ANYTYPE

Really wanted to go for this, as it's European, but they don't have good calendar support...

Re: Notion 3.0

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Post by addandsubtract »

bigtones wrote: post #7

Here is my bold prediction - Microsoft will try acquire Notion within a year. Notion seems have a lot of hype lately, and Microsoft tries to be king of the hill when it comes to productivity apps, buying tools encroaching upon their turf of Outlook and Excel (6 Wunderkinder, Yammer, Ally.io) or competing vigorously if they cant buy them (Teams). Seems like this Notion v3 could tip it over the edge into full blown pro…

Wunderlist 2.0

Re: Notion 3.0

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Post by pch00 »

bigtones wrote: post #7

Here is my bold prediction - Microsoft will try acquire Notion within a year. Notion seems have a lot of hype lately, and Microsoft tries to be king of the hill when it comes to productivity apps, buying tools encroaching upon their turf of Outlook and Excel (6 Wunderkinder, Yammer, Ally.io) or competing vigorously if they cant buy them (Teams). Seems like this Notion v3 could tip it over the edge into full blown pro…

> Here is my bold prediction - Microsoft will try acquire Notion within a year.

Microsoft do already have their own Notion ripoff/inspired product (Loop) though. It is a bit half-assed and the development pace is glacial so perhaps a new team behind it would be something they'd be interested in.

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