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Re: Notion 3.0

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Note taking is supposed to be a map of my brain. Not generated garbage from LLMs. I only want the most memorable things to be in there.

Re: Notion 3.0

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post #2

Note taking is supposed to be a map of my brain. Not generated garbage from LLMs. I only want the most memorable things to be in there.

The app you're looking for is Obsidian. Notion abandoned that goal years ago. Notion is making money for being a project management / team wiki. They don't care personal note taking.

Re: Notion 3.0

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I’d rather have better file/media management in the API. Speaking as someone that lives AI and uses it for everything.

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post #2

Note taking is supposed to be a map of my brain. Not generated garbage from LLMs. I only want the most memorable things to be in there.

I was waiting for a linux client for such a long time. Or a way for api access where i do not need to poll for changes.

But instead more ai slop.

And thats not the worst. Every time when a company adds ai features, i know they want to train on my data sooner or later.

So hard pass for that one.

edit: seems like webhooks are here now. Will give them a try, but knowing notion, expect wild limitations

Re: Notion 3.0

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Forgive me for living in a cave, but is there any reason to use Notion if you don’t need the collaboration features? My experience with Notion on an M2 MacBook Air (8 GB RAM) is that it brings the machine to its knees.

It strikes me that if Notion is a nice wrapper for a database, and the agent is being tasked with interfacing with that wrapper, why not skip the wrapper entirely? If they’re trying to offload most of your interaction with the application to an LLM agent, it seems like it doesn’t matter where the data lives. So why not use a Claude Code agent to do the same things for you locally?

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Here is my bold prediction - Microsoft will try acquire Notion within a year.

Notion seems have a lot of hype lately, and Microsoft tries to be king of the hill when it comes to productivity apps, buying tools encroaching upon their turf of Outlook and Excel (6 Wunderkinder, Yammer, Ally.io) or competing vigorously if they cant buy them (Teams). Seems like this Notion v3 could tip it over the edge into full blown productivity powerhouse.

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> with Notion AI Agents at the center.

Oh dear, more AI slop that's going to try to force itself on you, like a creepy uncle at a party. This "agents" thing seems to be a meaningless buzzword that every product must now use. I'd rather they focused on polishing the product or left it as it is, not contaminating it with trash that just gets in the way.

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This is what I mostly want. I want to keep track of things and when I have half done the work I want to note that and split the to-do and things like that. I want to say things to notes and have it write it down like me. I use Reminders app with my wife and use LLM to manage it. This would make me end up using Notion for personal life perhaps, but it has to be good. Problem with first-party agent is that I'm stuck with garbage agent because either:

* they have decided to "have our own model" (always garbage model)

* they have decided to "collaborate with X" (and this model rapidly gets outdated)

Re: Notion 3.0

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Forgive me for living in a cave, but is there any reason to use Notion if you don’t need the collaboration features? My experience with Notion on an M2 MacBook Air (8 GB RAM) is that it brings the machine to its knees. It strikes me that if Notion is a nice wrapper for a database, and the agent is being tasked with interfacing with that wrapper, why not skip the wrapper entirely? If they’re trying to offload most of…

> is there any reason to use Notion if you don't need the collaboration features

I assume the alternative here is Obsidian.

It does have features that Obsidian doesn't have (like better URL preview). But it's mostly UI stuff. If you literally just want to manage some .md notes I'd say there isn't a reason to use Notion.

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