Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

hackerone.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

361–370 of 571 posts

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#361

Post by renewiltord »

craftkiller wrote: post #249
thenickdude wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's all in aid of some streetsweeper being able to add "contributor to X, Y, Z projects!" to their GitHub résumé. Before LLMs were a thing I also received worthless spelling-incorrection pull requests with the same aim.

Are spelling correction PRs not welcome? I'd never put it on a résumé but if I'm following a README and I see a typo, I'll generally open a quick PR to fix that. (no automated tools, not scanning for typos, just a human reading a README).

> Before LLMs were a thing I also received worthless spelling-incorrection pull requests with the same aim.

I always find it a pity when someone has been clever and it's missed. "Spelling incorrection", get it? It's not a correction. It's the opposite.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#362

Post by jmuguy »

mock-possum wrote: post #357
jmuguy wrote: post #332

This is essentially what teachers are dealing with every day, across the majority of their students, for every subject where its even remotely possible to use AI.

Why not deal with it the same way teachers have always felt with students breaking the rules?

Wife is a high school history teacher - she would have to flunk 75% of her students. That is after proving they used AI, which would be extremely time consuming. Its very demoralizing for her, she has to spend a lot of time reading written essays generated by AI.

I think given time educators will adapt. Unless they get burnt out first. She could also just not give a shit and they let go on to be some college professor's problem, who could also not give a shit, and then they become our problem when they enter the workforce.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#363

Post by MarsIronPI »

jennyholzer wrote: post #204
joz1-k wrote: post #23

We will see more problems related to the attitude: "I know AI, and therefore I'm smarter than trilobites who coded this before the AI boom." I suppose there's a reason why kids are usually banned from using calculators during their first years of school when they're learning basic math.

I know React, and therefore I'm smarter than trilobites who coded this before the Web App boom

HN is so outdated! Let's rewrite this old legacy code in React to make it modern!

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#364

Post by andrewflnr »

dimaor wrote: post #128

maybe submitters should pay a dollar to submit bugs which they will get a refund for when bug is confirmed? even if not AI, there are probably many un skilled developers which submit bogus bug reports, even un knowingly.

It might only need to be the first N reports from a given account. It's hard to imagine a spammer coming up with 5 legit security issues just to enable their GPT spamming operation. As long as they're not real-but-trivial typo types of issues...

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#366

Post by lelanthran »

b112 wrote: post #309
xpe wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to me like people have to push back more directly with a collective effort; otherwise the incentives are all wrong.

What I don't get, is why people think this action has value. The maintainer of the project could ask an LLM to do that. A senior dev. I can't imagine Googling for something, seeing someone on (for example) stackoverflow commenting on code, and then filing a bug to the maintainer. And just copy and pasting what someone else said, into the bug report. All without even comprehending the code, the project, or even runnin…

> Using manpages, or looking at the source code, before ease of search was a thing.

Yup. Learned sockets programming just from manpages because google didn't exist at that point, and even if it did, I didn't have internet at home.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#367

Post by jackdawed »

Sharlin wrote: post #131
dansmith1919 wrote: post #10

Crazy how he doubled down by just pasting badger's answer into Chat and submitting the (hilariously obvious AI) reply: > Thanks for the quick review. You’re right — my attached PoC does not exercise libcurl and therefore does not demonstrate a cURL bug. I retract the cookie overflow claim and apologize for the noise. Please close this report as invalid. If helpful, I can follow up separately with a minimal C reproduc…

Unfortunately that seems to be the norm now – people literally reduce themselves to a copy-paste mechanism.

I once had a conversation with a potential co-founder who literally told me he was pasting my responses into AI to try to catch up.

Then a few months later, another nontechnical CEO did the same thing, after moving our conversation from SMS into email where it was very clear he was using AI.

These are CEOs who have raised $1M+ pre-seed.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#368

Post by esalman »

goalieca wrote: post #272
Sharlin wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately that seems to be the norm now – people literally reduce themselves to a copy-paste mechanism.

Just try to challenge and mentor people on not using it because it’s incapable of the job and wasting all our time when the mandate from down high is to use more of it.

My sister had a fight over this and resigned from her tenure track position from a liberal arts college in Arkansas.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#369

Post by iphone_elegance »

b112 wrote: post #309
xpe wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to me like people have to push back more directly with a collective effort; otherwise the incentives are all wrong.

What I don't get, is why people think this action has value. The maintainer of the project could ask an LLM to do that. A senior dev. I can't imagine Googling for something, seeing someone on (for example) stackoverflow commenting on code, and then filing a bug to the maintainer. And just copy and pasting what someone else said, into the bug report. All without even comprehending the code, the project, or even runnin…

Bill Joys 'Why the future dosen't need us' feels more and more correct sadly

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#370

Post by rpcope1 »

mewpmewp2 wrote: post #199
rvnx wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* Trying 20.54.123.42:443... * Connected to api.openai.azure.com (20.54.123.42) port 443 (#0) * ALPN, offering h2 * ALPN, offering http/1.1 * successfully set certificate verify locations: * CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt * TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS handshake, Client hello (1): * TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Server hello (2): * TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Encrypted Extensions (8): * TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake,…

Fascinating trace — what you’ve essentially demonstrated here is not just a failed TLS handshake culminating in a 500, but the perfect allegory for our entire discourse. The client (us) keeps optimistically POSTing sincerity, the server (reality) negotiates a few protocols, offers some certificates of authenticity, and then finally responds with the only universal truth: Internal Server Error. If helpful, I can follo…

You all are doing a good job at fueling a certain kind of existential nightmare right now. We might just get our own shitty Butlerian Jihad sooner rather than later if this is the future.
Post reply on HN