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Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by lavela »

ForHackernews wrote: post #2

Ladybird is great, but Omarchy is a weird choice. Why can't DHH / Basecamp sponsor David's hobby distro if he wants? The browser ecosystem is dangerously centralized and another independent rendering engine would be welcome. In contrast, I don't see the value in yet another flavor-of-the-week Linux distro. Even sponsoring Arch directly would make more sense here.

Openly aligning with DHH is certainly a choice. After all being created by DHH is the only feature they list on their website.

Didn't care for the DHH controversies for a long time but if you start writing white national blog posts[1] I don't know what to say anymore.

[1] https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by justusthane »

flykespice wrote: post #6

I'm curious what makes LadyBird so special compared to other major browsers like Firefox and Chromium?

It’s one of the very, very few independent browsers built from the ground up and not on top of one the few existing engines (Gecko, Chromium, WebKit), which is extremely important to the health of the open web.

Imagine a world where Chromium is the only browser engine. Standards wouldn’t matter and Google could just do whatever they wanted — we’re pretty close to that as it is.

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by ericd »

indigodaddy wrote: post #9
ForHackernews wrote: post #2

Ladybird is great, but Omarchy is a weird choice. Why can't DHH / Basecamp sponsor David's hobby distro if he wants? The browser ecosystem is dangerously centralized and another independent rendering engine would be welcome. In contrast, I don't see the value in yet another flavor-of-the-week Linux distro. Even sponsoring Arch directly would make more sense here.

Also isn't it just a script to install some stuff and customize

I think the last mile polish has always been a big weakness of the oss ecosystem (on average), so this kind of integration into a nice package is important work, I think. Personally, I’m really enjoying Omarchy.

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by voxic11 »

afandian wrote: post #10
flykespice wrote: post #6

I'm curious what makes LadyBird so special compared to other major browsers like Firefox and Chromium?

It's famously impossible to donate money to Firefox (at least for users).

By this you mean that donations can only go to Mozilla and cannot be earmarked for the Firefox browser specifically right?

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by ksec »

May be one day Ladybird will be the default on Omarchy. And on a fast system with fast USB you could install Omarchy in under 2 minute.

Someday I hope Omarchu becomes the standard way to develop Ruby Rails on, just like how Ruby Rails was always on macOS and not Windows.

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by oefrha »

I’m skeptical. Cloudflare clearly wants to move us to a future where only approved browsers are allowed to access the web. People have been fiercely debating whether that’s a terrible thing, or whether that’s the least bad practical solution on offer for website owners. I don’t want to make a judgement on that, but I don’t think the observation that CF is pushing us in that direction is very controversial. But an independent open source web browser is obviously against that ethos. So what’s the play here exactly? Just for goodwill?

(Regardless of motivation, they’re lending more support than most other companies, so it’s applaudable nonetheless.)

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by delfinom »

afandian wrote: post #10
flykespice wrote: post #6

I'm curious what makes LadyBird so special compared to other major browsers like Firefox and Chromium?

It's famously impossible to donate money to Firefox (at least for users).

Why even donate to a business that keeps paying their CEO more and more while laying off employees?
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