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Teardown of Apple 40W dynamic power adapter with 60W max

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Re: Teardown of Apple 40W dynamic power adapter with 60W max

#91
I wish they could do a 2 port version. During holiday I tend to charge both my Phone and Battery pack at the same time over night. Unless All Hotels around the world start doing integrated GaN 30 to 40W charging port as standard I will still need to bring my own USB-C Adaptor.

Even the same 60W max, 30W per port is enough to charge both to full in 2-3 hours.

Re: Teardown of Apple 40W dynamic power adapter with 60W max

#92
post #69

This teardown is great! At my work, we have an X-ray machine for PCB reverse engineering. On Fridays we throw in random stuff from around the office, and sometimes make videos about what we find inside. A few weeks ago we released an X-ray teardown of several other, older chargers. Very interesting to compare with these fancy new ones! https://youtu.be/4h4qabPsPfI

Would a CT scanner work better for your use case? (ignoring cost)

Re: Teardown of Apple 40W dynamic power adapter with 60W max

#93
post #91

I wish they could do a 2 port version. During holiday I tend to charge both my Phone and Battery pack at the same time over night. Unless All Hotels around the world start doing integrated GaN 30 to 40W charging port as standard I will still need to bring my own USB-C Adaptor. Even the same 60W max, 30W per port is enough to charge both to full in 2-3 hours.

Why would it have to be GaN? a 40W charger wouldn't suffice at a hotel?

Re: Teardown of Apple 40W dynamic power adapter with 60W max

#94
post #93
post #91

I wish they could do a 2 port version. During holiday I tend to charge both my Phone and Battery pack at the same time over night. Unless All Hotels around the world start doing integrated GaN 30 to 40W charging port as standard I will still need to bring my own USB-C Adaptor. Even the same 60W max, 30W per port is enough to charge both to full in 2-3 hours.

Why would it have to be GaN? a 40W charger wouldn't suffice at a hotel?

From my experience every hotel integrated charger is barely 5V 0.5A, much less PD or anything else. Parent comment was talking about the integrated usb chargers in rooms, if I’m understanding correctly (hence the need to still bring their own)

Re: Teardown of Apple 40W dynamic power adapter with 60W max

#95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still keep a few 5 watt chargers around and use them for overnight charging whenever possible. I reserve the use of high power chargers for the odd occasion when I need the speed.

Probably wearing your batteries out more. Bunch of studies done have found fast charging causes no additional degradation. Unless you hold the charge below 90% or something letting them dwell at 100% for hours is worse.

Why wearing out more? I’d been planning on pulling out an old charger to slow charge overnight.

Re: Teardown of Apple 40W dynamic power adapter with 60W max

#96

Apple has a history of some quality and extremely compact power supplies. I have to wonder if they have a team with an EE paired with an origami artist, with how creative some of the layouts get.

Does Apple even design their own chargers? I know previous chargers have been built by Samsung, Flextronics, and other power electronics companies. Apple sells Anker chargers from within their online store and possibly retail too so I figured they threw in the towel long ago. Honestly it seems quite overpriced when you can get a similar Anker GaN charger for much less. And no, this isn't 2004 anymore, non-OEM charger…

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Re: Teardown of Apple 40W dynamic power adapter with 60W max

#97

This is very cool, I might actually get one to charge my laptop. That being said... I can't be the only person who consciously avoids fast-charging my phone. My whole apartment is full of wireless charging pads intentionally plugged into weak chargers (wireless charging avoids putting wear on the USB port). 60 watts can't possibly be healthy for a battery small enough to fit into a phone.

I believe current battery technology is optimized for fast charging. You are incurring damage every time your battery goes below 20% or exceeds 80% (see current EV charging recommendations). Even LinusTechTips did a video that showed the length of charging doing more damage than fast charging. For the concern about thermal damage, most phones will throttle their charge if they become too warm. Personally, I feel my w…

I agree. I started using wireless charging with my iPhone 15 Pro Max. After a year of use, I am already near the 80% max capacity.

My previous phones never even got below 90% in their lifetime.

Re: Teardown of Apple 40W dynamic power adapter with 60W max

#99
post #16

Is there a way to slow down these high power chargers? Sometimes I want a fast charge but mostly I want slow to getting hot. I realize overnight charging phones are smart enough to do this but otherwise seems to be impossible without having two different chargers.

On my Samsung S24 Ultra I have a routine set up where it automatically disables fast charging during the night, but enables it again during the day - the logic being that I don't mind if the phone charges slowly while I sleep, but if I plug it in during the day then I probably want the quickest top-up possible.
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