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After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by dmonitor »

0x68cdbcd0 wrote: post #150
taurath wrote: post #120

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> I always thought the US to be a stronghold of democracy and free speech. Every single story and moral guidance I've ever been told from childhood, whether from movies, books, church, or culture in general is that people like those in power right now are the bad guys. I no longer have any idea what people on the other side actually think. I don't think they know anymore either. I think they just want to exert power…

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> it's because we get downvoted/banned/doxxed (on most platforms) when we do say what we think.

And what opinions are these?

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by taurath »

kanbara wrote: post #170
0x68cdbcd0 wrote: post #150

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how can you say you only want cooperation when the viewpoints you and your brethren share are dehumanising, against a peaceful world, against caring for the environment, against minorities, against queer folk, and against international cooperation? we arent talking about “how many immigrants should we allow”, we’re talking about “trans people shouldnt exist”, “christianity is the true religion”, “deport all legal imm…

The person you’re responding to may not believe those things, and may not want those things or think it’s possible or reasonable. Let them speak about it at least before assuming that group affiliation means those things.

FWIW I believe dehumanization is a horrendous thing, especially when aimed at relatively powerless minorities.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by [deleted] »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #60
Jtsummers wrote: post #49

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> They stopped caring about your feelings, because you didn't care about theirs. Free speech is not about feelings. It's a principle, one enshrined in the US Constitution. If you don't believe in free speech, just say it. Say you don't want free speech, free assembly, free religion, and the free press. Don't cry about hurt feelings, though. That's what children do.

They stood for free speech; but judging by the downvotes here, the left didn't care about their free speech. If it did, my post above wouldn't be at -4, while the inflammatory answer above is still in the black. The left instead rationalized it under "free speech is not freedom from consequences", called them Nazis, fascists, bigots, homophobes, misogynists, you'd need a thesaurus. Every slur in the thesaurus, they u…

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Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by Jcowell »

ajross wrote: post #146
camel_Snake wrote: post #143

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> Paraphrased, Kimmel said that the killer was a republican. He literally didn't though? Why does this mistake keep being made. Kimmel made 0 assertions about the shooter. He did make assertions about the President and his conduct, however.

He... sorta did: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them [...]" The sentence is convoluted but clearly implies that "this kid" was "one of the MAGA gang". Is that what Kimmel meant ? No, his point was that they (the MAGA gang) were exploiting the tragedy to "score political points". But it's not…

> The sentence is convoluted but clearly implies that "this kid" was "one of the MAGA gang".

What? This is crazy “find the authors purpose” gymnastics. The quote does nothing to imply that the kids is Maga or not. It does however directly commentates on “Maga gang”’s actions to try to paint him as anyone other than someone who could be MAGA. Thats the entire point of what was said

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by jcranmer »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #98
Retinal7467 wrote: post #97

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Correct. He didn't use a legal framework, and did it anyway. They even convinced Twitter to ban retweeting an unfavorable New York Post article that turned out true! https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/mark-zuckerbe... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/zuckerberg-says-the-wh... https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO02/20220914/115106/HHRG... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/oct/14/facebook-..…

Trump's single greatest political achievement is to make everybody forget who was president in 2020.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by kcplate »

I don’t watch any of these shows, but I have seen videos of the View hosts having to read “Legal Notes” on air, often after commercial breaks to “clarify” or correct things that were just said on the show. Even one video where after the “note” the host attempted to clarify off the cuff even further…only to get an another note again right away to clarify the clarification.

My feeling is if I was a media company, and I had to employ lawyers to legal check conversations in real time on a talk show because my hosts were either so dumb to know when to avoid shooting their mouths off, or couldn’t control themselves…that show better be making a metric shit ton of profit otherwise I’d yank it and put up reruns of House on the Prairie.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by throw0101a »

oh_sigh wrote: post #166
throw0101a wrote: post #162

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> Carr spoke about a potential investigation by the FCC on a podcast and the affiliates and Disney bowed to that. Kind of like a mob member talks about a potential fire at a local establishment.

Is there a judiciary that determines whether the mob was within their rights to light your restaurant on fire, and can stop the mob from lighting the restaurant on fire? Even if you think the FCC is just an extension of trump(fair) at this moment, their rulings aren't the final word. They still need to follow the law. If the FCC improperly attempts to withhold a license from the affiliate, the affiliate can sue and l…

> If the FCC improperly attempts to withhold a license from the affiliate, the affiliate can sue and let federal judges, who are not an extension of trump, decide on the matter.

Which will take years to settle and you're paying fees upon fees. Or you can kiss ass and get it rubber stamped.

That's why corruption can be so corrosive: it's the "easy" way through the problem.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by zzzeek »

clipsy wrote: post #29
zzzeek wrote: post #4

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it would help if the billionaire / centimillionaire classes decided they didn't like what was going on.

It’d be hectomillionaire, unless you’re referring to people with $10k.

Centimillionaire was chosen for a reason.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by pokerface_86 »

taurath wrote: post #172
kanbara wrote: post #170

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how can you say you only want cooperation when the viewpoints you and your brethren share are dehumanising, against a peaceful world, against caring for the environment, against minorities, against queer folk, and against international cooperation? we arent talking about “how many immigrants should we allow”, we’re talking about “trans people shouldnt exist”, “christianity is the true religion”, “deport all legal imm…

The person you’re responding to may not believe those things, and may not want those things or think it’s possible or reasonable. Let them speak about it at least before assuming that group affiliation means those things. FWIW I believe dehumanization is a horrendous thing, especially when aimed at relatively powerless minorities.

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