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After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by reop2whiskey »

pm90 wrote: post #43
xyzelement wrote: post #41

I love my liberal principles but this is totally expected. Ideally we live in a world where Kimmel isn't canceled but neither is someone like Roseanne Barr. But that world hasn't existed for a while. In a prisoners dilemma both sides win by cooperation. Once a side "defects" - the other side is a sucker not to. The ship on lamenting this stuff has sailed.

Barr wasn’t cancelled by threats from the Government.

tens of thousands were

http://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/weaponizatio...

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by throw0101a »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #100
etchalon wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kimmel was canceled explicitly because of a threat by the government. Carr has made that clear.

Carr spoke about a potential investigation by the FCC on a podcast and the affiliates and Disney bowed to that.

> Carr spoke about a potential investigation by the FCC on a podcast and the affiliates and Disney bowed to that.

Kind of like a mob member talks about a potential fire at a local establishment.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by mensetmanusman »

ownlife wrote: post #53
mensetmanusman wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Did Jimmy Kimmel celebrate the assassination? (He did not.)

No, enough people were angered by him when he accused Trump supporters of killing Kirk that abc had to pull for financial reasons. Not sure why he would’ve said that on a comedy show.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by reop2whiskey »

oenton wrote: post #154
christophilus wrote: post #92

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The Biden administration had (and used) the ability to demote conservative news outlets on Facebook and Twitter. This cancel culture— both from the right and left— sucks and should be fought.

> The Biden administration had (and used) the ability to demote conservative news outlets on Facebook and Twitter. This is categorically false. Are you referring to this story, where the Biden administration asked Facebook to take down Covid misinformation and "expressed a lot of frustration" when Zuckerberg told them no? https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/zuckerberg-says-the-wh... If not, then where did you learn…

plenty of evidence if you look

http://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/weaponizatio...

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by hellotheretoday »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #90
etchalon wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kimmel was canceled explicitly because of a threat by the government. Carr has made that clear.

Why are people playing dumb and ignoring this detail?

Because the political playbook is to argue in bad faith and conservatives are much better convincing their base of that than democrats. Why are many of them convinced that left wing violence is a scourge when right wing violence outweighs it by an overwhelming majority [0] unless you do mental gymnastics after tons of mass shootings (as Kash Patel, who one would think would be aware of related trends to domestic terrorism, so eloquently put it: “I’m sorry. Dylann Roof?”[1])

[0]https://theconversation.com/right-wing-extremist-violence-is... [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrkgM9_xOj4

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by oh_sigh »

throw0101a wrote: post #162
IncreasePosts wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carr spoke about a potential investigation by the FCC on a podcast and the affiliates and Disney bowed to that.

> Carr spoke about a potential investigation by the FCC on a podcast and the affiliates and Disney bowed to that. Kind of like a mob member talks about a potential fire at a local establishment.

Is there a judiciary that determines whether the mob was within their rights to light your restaurant on fire, and can stop the mob from lighting the restaurant on fire?

Even if you think the FCC is just an extension of trump(fair) at this moment, their rulings aren't the final word. They still need to follow the law. If the FCC improperly attempts to withhold a license from the affiliate, the affiliate can sue and let federal judges, who are not an extension of trump, decide on the matter.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by jmclnx »

gtirloni wrote: post #14

I'm not a US citizen so take what I write below with a grain of salt. I always thought the US to be a stronghold of democracy and free speech. I know, it's a naive view and we know how huge companies and corrupt politicians can subvert the system. But still, I thought it had a decent law system that, although imperfect like any other system, kept things from going back to the dark ages. I don't believe that anymore a…

In the Reagan years, money started to became more important than voters. Under Bush 2 and recent Supreme Court Decisions, bribes became legal. Per the Court they called them "tips".

So Congress people spend more time fund raising (taking bribes) than helping their district.

Nothing real has gotten done in many districts for multiple decades. Real wages, when compared to inflation, and has been falling for decades. When I was very young, laws where passed that actually helped people. As a very young kid, I remember waking up as a kid with coal flakes on my window sill due to its use in the mills. That ended in the 70s.

Now, to get more money the laws that cleaned up the environment are being cancelled, why, rich are "tipping" congress people.

The US is done, time for civilization advancement to be carried on by another Country. Hopefully the EU can get its act together.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by taurath »

0x68cdbcd0 wrote: post #150
taurath wrote: post #120

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> I always thought the US to be a stronghold of democracy and free speech. Every single story and moral guidance I've ever been told from childhood, whether from movies, books, church, or culture in general is that people like those in power right now are the bad guys. I no longer have any idea what people on the other side actually think. I don't think they know anymore either. I think they just want to exert power…

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Thanks, I genuinely appreciate the perspective. Do you find that perspective is primarily gotten from real life conversations, or from discourse online/social media/political commentators?

I often fantasize about being able to just converse openly and be able to mutually share experiences. I was raised very conservative and speak the language and know the values. I don't hold those beliefs anymore because of experiences I've had that made them contradictory to hold. But I still appreciate why someone who hasn't had my experiences might hold them.

For my "side", among all the people that I talk to who, who would be considered pretty far to one side, everyone wants primarily to be left alone, not harassed, and wants to coexist, and be respected. Is it the same from yours?

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by y-curious »

squigz wrote: post #7

I'm sure there's some Republicans on HN. I'm curious why/if you think that, if the public pressuring companies to fire people for some things (what some people call "cancelling") is wrong, it's somehow more appropriate for the government to do it? Or is this just a matter of, "well, they did it for years, now it's our turn" for you? (If you don't actually support this party, consider refraining from sharing your opin…

I think you should understand that a lot of R's vote along party lines and just felt that Trump would be the lesser of two evils. I would rephrase your question to ask for people that support this specific action, as opposed to membership in the party.

I am a Republican, not necessarily thrilled with how things are going, and I completely oppose forcing Kimmel out of a job for this. It is not only unconstitutional in my opinion, but also extremely petty.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Post by kanbara »

0x68cdbcd0 wrote: post #150
taurath wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I always thought the US to be a stronghold of democracy and free speech. Every single story and moral guidance I've ever been told from childhood, whether from movies, books, church, or culture in general is that people like those in power right now are the bad guys. I no longer have any idea what people on the other side actually think. I don't think they know anymore either. I think they just want to exert power…

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how can you say you only want cooperation when the viewpoints you and your brethren share are dehumanising, against a peaceful world, against caring for the environment, against minorities, against queer folk, and against international cooperation?

we arent talking about “how many immigrants should we allow”, we’re talking about “trans people shouldnt exist”, “christianity is the true religion”, “deport all legal immigrants”, “gay people shouldnt have human rights”

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