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Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says
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Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says
#302If H-1B workers are too expensive to hire, tech employers have two options:
1. Hire more American workers (pay more, maybe they don't exist so don't hire)
2. Move their offices overseas (already happening, we should see an acceleration)
Ok, I guess AI could also start replacing more roles, but we won't see that productivity for a year or two.
If companies choose 2 over 1, it will mean fewer jobs overall in the USA (including support and service jobs).
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Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says
#304Is it proposed by Trump. Why is everyone here assuming it is done and final. It probably won't be approved.
approved by who? The people of the US already elected the president. He pretty much ran on reforming the visa system for the benefit of the US worker. This is a first step in the process. For those who don't understand how he works, this is the opening offer which is of course extreme. It will light a fire under Congress to actually pass some real reform. He did this with all the tariffs and trade deals. Despite what you read in the globalist media, it didn't cause havoc to the economy. He forces people to come to the table, negotiate, and get stuff done.
Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says
#305If you're concerned about 'brain drain' remember O-1 visas are for the truly exceptional immigrants which remain in effect.
H1B visas are for rank and file employees with just a skill.
This allows employers to indenture servitude employees, depresses American wages, increases unemployment, increases rent prices in areas with high levels of immigration, and hurts American culture.
Most jobs are not that hard and a company should invest in Americans instead of immigrants if it want's to continue to do business here and enjoy the fruits of America.
Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says
#306Everyone in these threads always points out all sorts of issues with the H1B system, which are mostly true, but it's not like there's a suggestion for a replacement here. This is a de facto shutdown of the program, not a reform. I'd be happy to see a reformed skilled immigration program for the US, but this isn't it. The US makes up about 4.5% of the global population and it seems silly to think that the FAANG compan…
> This is a de facto shutdown of the program Is it? Some AI recruitments have seen 9-figure contracts. $100K is actually a surprisingly well-considered number and would still see the intake of legitimate talents, obviously contingent on the specific details. Indeed, those people wouldn't have to compete with masses of consultant trash and the whole lottery system could be done away with. $100K actually seems perfectl…
> Some AI recruitments have seen 9-figure contracts.
These are crazy outliers who would go through a different visa path anyway. US tech companies still need mid-level workers making low-to-mid six figures. Weirdly O1 visa holder spouses will get an O3 which doesn't allow them to work, making it worse than the H1B/H4 visa for some set of people. (H4s allow spouses to work)
Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says
#307IMO, the fee is the wrong thing that needs adjusting. It's the salary that should be adjusted. The minimum salary for an H1B should be $200k. It's something like 50k right now which is ridiculous especially with all the restrictions an applicant is under. It both suppresses wages and abuses the worker.
The H1B program should be scrapped and replaced with a program where anyone (who passes some background check) can pay $100k a year for a green card
Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says
#308This might be one of the smarter things this administration has done/is doing. It will cut down on fraud, and ensure the position they're hiring for isn't just some mid-level engineer. H1B applications should be a source of tax revenue, beyond standard taxes. I sort of wish it had been done 15 years ago but better late then never.
I personally think it will be abused to bring in highly undesirable people , because it will turn into a $100k ticket for criminals.
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#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
The top end of H1B has been great for America. In the last few decades, there has been growth of abuse of the program to get mid level talent at below market rates which really hurts the middle class in America. People need to understand that most reformists don't want to get rid of the truly exceptional immigration to the US. We need to limit the volume, especially the immigrants that are directly competing with a h…
The hollowing out of the middle class in the US isn't because of immigrants, it's because of a sustained campaign by capital to reduce the power of labor over the last 50-odd years and to concentrate wealth as best they can. Immigrant labor contributes to that because we've got inadequate labor protections and because we bought into the idea that lower consumer prices was a fine reason to ignore both labor and antitr…
"The hollowing out of the middle class in the US isn't because of immigrants, it's because of a sustained campaign by capital to reduce the power of labor over the last 50-odd years and to concentrate wealth as best they can."
Creating low cost alternatives and taking advance of lax laws is part of that. If you can import 100k skilled workers per year under a scheme that gives you more power over them. Then you also offshore 300k jobs per year to countries with weaker protections.
It's always baffled me how the same candidates that claim to be pro labor and pro environment are also pro globalization. The way it plays out is that the jobs are just offshore to jurisdictions that lack the same labor and environmental protections.
Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says
#310Everyone in these threads always points out all sorts of issues with the H1B system, which are mostly true, but it's not like there's a suggestion for a replacement here. This is a de facto shutdown of the program, not a reform. I'd be happy to see a reformed skilled immigration program for the US, but this isn't it. The US makes up about 4.5% of the global population and it seems silly to think that the FAANG compan…
Yeah but no offense if you're paid the same as your peers, you're not necessarily exceptional.
There's literally millions of talented Americans out of work in the tech industry right now while companies continue to hire H1B.
The companies post impossible requirement job ads in obscure locations..to get around the requirements to hire Americans first.