The four books discussed in that passage are: AI Snake Oil – by Arvind Narayanan and Sayash Kapoor Nexus – by Yuval Noah Harari Genesis – by Henry Kissinger, Craig Mundie, and Eric Schmidt The Singularity Is Nearer – by Ray Kurzweil
In 20 years, Kurzweil will write another book entitled, "The Singularity is Almost Here".
An untidy history of AI across four books
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#12Aravind Narayanan seems to be the only guy qualified enough to be called an expert.
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#14Aravind Narayanan seems to be the only guy qualified enough to be called an expert.
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#16Aravind Narayanan seems to be the only guy qualified enough to be called an expert.
That's one of the things that drives me nuts about all the public discourse about AI and our future. The vast majority of words written/spoken on the subject are by generic "thought leaders" who really have no greater understanding of AI than anyone else who uses it regularly.
> A puzzling characteristic of many AI prophets is their unfamiliarity with the technology itself
> After reading these books, I began to question whether “hype” is a sufficient term for describing an uncoordinated yet global campaign of obfuscation and manipulation advanced by many Silicon Valley leaders, researchers, and journalists
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#17Aravind Narayanan seems to be the only guy qualified enough to be called an expert.
HN's own https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=randomwalker !
In 2018 or 2019 I saw a comment here that said that most people don't appreciate the distinction between domains with low irreducible error that benefit from fancy models with complex decision boundaries (like computer vision) and domains with high irreducible error where such models don't add much value over something simple like logistic regression.
It's an obvious-in-retrospect observation, but it made me realize that this is the source of a lot of confusion and hype about AI (such as the idea that we can use it to predict crime accurately). I gave a talk elaborating on this point, which went viral, and then led to the book with my coauthor Sayash Kapoor. More surprisingly, despite being seemingly obvious it led to a productive research agenda.
While writing the book I spent a lot of time searching for that comment so that I could credit/thank the author, but never found it.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
HN's own https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=randomwalker !
Thanks! HN was part of the origin story of the book in question. In 2018 or 2019 I saw a comment here that said that most people don't appreciate the distinction between domains with low irreducible error that benefit from fancy models with complex decision boundaries (like computer vision) and domains with high irreducible error where such models don't add much value over something simple like logistic regression. I…
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(excerpted from the Amazon summary at https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Snake-Oil-Thoughts-Informatio... ).So, was this something that you guys were conscious of when you chose your own book's title? How well have you future-proofed your central thesis?
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#19Aravind Narayanan seems to be the only guy qualified enough to be called an expert.
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#20The four books discussed in that passage are: AI Snake Oil – by Arvind Narayanan and Sayash Kapoor Nexus – by Yuval Noah Harari Genesis – by Henry Kissinger, Craig Mundie, and Eric Schmidt The Singularity Is Nearer – by Ray Kurzweil
Henry Kissinger, noted AI expert.