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Can you speak more intelligently to your point. What laws were violated? Why would the FCC care about profitability of a show and advertisers?
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After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View
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Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View
#82It actually sickens me how many people that supposedly cared about liberty just completely switched their schtick overnight. I'm not surprised that some of these people were two faced liars, I'm just surprised by the sheer scale and the shamelessness of it. It's like I'm living in a world surrounded by aliens.
It's neat to learn who had actual principles and who was just borrowing some because they were upset they couldn't use the N word.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think Republicans characterize it that way. I find myself right leaning, and while I like most of Trumps agenda, I often disagree with his tactics. I increasingly have to fact check stuff like this to see if he crossed a line. The problem is there's too much BS, summarizing, and mischaracterising going on. Direct quotes (sometimes requiring context) are needed to get to the bottom of things. It's exhausting.…
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Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View
#84We need a third party, because this is just the pendulum swinging away from one cancel culture to another.
This is not cancel culture. It is a violation of the First Amendment.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They stopped caring about your feelings, because you didn't care about theirs. Free speech is not about feelings. It's a principle, one enshrined in the US Constitution. If you don't believe in free speech, just say it. Say you don't want free speech, free assembly, free religion, and the free press. Don't cry about hurt feelings, though. That's what children do.
They stood for free speech; but judging by the downvotes here, the left didn't care about their free speech. If it did, my post above wouldn't be at -4, while the inflammatory answer above is still in the black. The left instead rationalized it under "free speech is not freedom from consequences", called them Nazis, fascists, bigots, homophobes, misogynists, you'd need a thesaurus. Every slur in the thesaurus, they u…
> while the inflammatory answer above is still in the black.
Which answer are you referring to?
Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View
#86Back in 2022, when Musk was buying Twitter and the Biden administration was asking social media companies to moderate potentially harmful medical misinformation, it felt like every third comment here was someone hollering about free-speech absolutism. Where did all those people go?
It's different when they do it.
Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View
#87I'm not a US citizen so take what I write below with a grain of salt. I always thought the US to be a stronghold of democracy and free speech. I know, it's a naive view and we know how huge companies and corrupt politicians can subvert the system. But still, I thought it had a decent law system that, although imperfect like any other system, kept things from going back to the dark ages. I don't believe that anymore a…
What you have here has nothing to do with the law, and has to do with power. Disney willingly pulled Kimmel off their own networks, because a major distributor of their content(Sinclair) threatened to not air it, which accounts for about 20% of the viewership of the show.
Why did Sinclair threaten to not air it?
Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View
#88I love my liberal principles but this is totally expected. Ideally we live in a world where Kimmel isn't canceled but neither is someone like Roseanne Barr. But that world hasn't existed for a while. In a prisoners dilemma both sides win by cooperation. Once a side "defects" - the other side is a sucker not to. The ship on lamenting this stuff has sailed.
Barr wasn’t cancelled by threats from the Government.
That's a nuance without consequence. Barr is a random example that came to mind.
The larger point is that it's been very difficult for a while to be a conservative in media, or academia or in the workplace, due to the ease with which you were canceled. The reason people stick with principles because it helps them and the other side - it's a high ground maneuver.
But once you feel like you are consistently deprived of all the benefits of that principle, you are no longer inclined to uphold it.
So in general I would expect conservatives to now attack via pathways they were previously above. The fact that people are surprised they are getting fired for celebrating Kirk's murder is one sign of how benign the conservatives had been about that stuff. I think that's over now.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They stopped caring about your feelings, because you didn't care about theirs. Free speech is not about feelings. It's a principle, one enshrined in the US Constitution. If you don't believe in free speech, just say it. Say you don't want free speech, free assembly, free religion, and the free press. Don't cry about hurt feelings, though. That's what children do.
They stood for free speech; but judging by the downvotes here, the left didn't care about their free speech. If it did, my post above wouldn't be at -4, while the inflammatory answer above is still in the black. The left instead rationalized it under "free speech is not freedom from consequences", called them Nazis, fascists, bigots, homophobes, misogynists, you'd need a thesaurus. Every slur in the thesaurus, they u…
This basically sums it up.
The right was upset that free speech worked both ways.
They are now enforcing that grievance with government power.
Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Neither was Kimmel - the real threats came from the ABC affiliates who threatened to not air his content.
Kimmel was canceled explicitly because of a threat by the government. Carr has made that clear.
Why are people playing dumb and ignoring this detail?