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After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Barr wasn’t cancelled by threats from the Government.

Neither was Kimmel - the real threats came from the ABC affiliates who threatened to not air his content.

Kimmel was canceled explicitly because of a threat by the government. Carr has made that clear.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

#72
post #18

It actually sickens me how many people that supposedly cared about liberty just completely switched their schtick overnight. I'm not surprised that some of these people were two faced liars, I'm just surprised by the sheer scale and the shamelessness of it. It's like I'm living in a world surrounded by aliens.

> "It's like I'm living in a world surrounded by aliens."

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Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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post #12

While I don't much care for either Kimmel nor The View - this is ridiculously corrupt, authoritarian, thuggish, illegal and arrogant behavior and cannot be allowed to stand. And shame on Disney for caving. Cowards who kneel down to kiss the ring in the face of blatantly illegal threats are not worthy of a position of public trust. And over a merger no less. I can't think of a better moral justification to prevent a c…

An issue was that the right was being canceled for views not even 5 years ago and the same people complaining about Kimmel are having their exact quotes replayed justifying those types of cancellations. From a game theoretic standpoint, tit for tat is exactly what’s supposed to happen to stabilize the situation. This has actually been proven by mathematicians that apply decision making theories to social structures.

Yes, much of the anger is coming from the petard-hoisting nature of this, and people who spent 2017-2024 trying to silence (or worse) everyone who disagreed with them and cheering on governments that tried to suppress "disinformation" and other speech they didn't like, having to come up with elaborate justifications why It's Different This Time.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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People are discovering that cancel culture goes both ways.

Neither one is good.

But let's not pretend that cancel culture has not been going for many years now.

Remember Fox News cancelling, their most popular at the time, Tucker Carlson Show?

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

#75
post #26

We need a third party, because this is just the pendulum swinging away from one cancel culture to another.

Don't be naive. There was no jawboning from the previous administration to networks to cancel someone -- especially someone who always made fun of the President.

However, this is a a classic example of violation of 1A. (I agree that the thing that was probably in the grey area was they asked Twitter to remove certain COVID-19 medical disinformation tweets -- But, come on, many people were consuming horse dewormers for COVID and dying. )

The right's cancel culture is a violation of constitution because it's the government that's doing the cancelling.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Pure kayfabe. ABC needed any excuse to get rid of a show that no longer made sense in the modern era of streaming. NBC and CBS must be furious that they didn’t think of this first. Edit: Ha I forgot that CBS actually did think of it first with Colbert’s show getting axed too.

Stupid take. These shows are cheap to produce and still get good ratings. They're profitable. What are they being replaced with?

You can’t resell old episodes. They only talk about news and celebrities relevant to each specific week. They’re instantly dated - no one is rewatching old episodes beyond a week. Even if there are some stragglers still watching them with their ancient cable TV subscriptions, they’ll be gone within five years and who wants to invest in a dying show with an expiration date?

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They stopped caring about your feelings, because you didn't care about theirs. Free speech is not about feelings. It's a principle, one enshrined in the US Constitution. If you don't believe in free speech, just say it. Say you don't want free speech, free assembly, free religion, and the free press. Don't cry about hurt feelings, though. That's what children do.

They stood for free speech; but judging by the downvotes here, the left didn't care about their free speech. If it did, my post above wouldn't be at -4, while the inflammatory answer above is still in the black. The left instead rationalized it under "free speech is not freedom from consequences", called them Nazis, fascists, bigots, homophobes, misogynists, you'd need a thesaurus. Every slur in the thesaurus, they u…

I don't know though, maybe going from downvotes to making assumptions about something like 50m people is a bit of a stretch? And for what it's worth, I upvoted it, and I would certainly fall under "the left"

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They stopped caring about your feelings, because you didn't care about theirs. Free speech is not about feelings. It's a principle, one enshrined in the US Constitution. If you don't believe in free speech, just say it. Say you don't want free speech, free assembly, free religion, and the free press. Don't cry about hurt feelings, though. That's what children do.

They stood for free speech; but judging by the downvotes here, the left didn't care about their free speech. If it did, my post above wouldn't be at -4, while the inflammatory answer above is still in the black. The left instead rationalized it under "free speech is not freedom from consequences", called them Nazis, fascists, bigots, homophobes, misogynists, you'd need a thesaurus. Every slur in the thesaurus, they u…

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Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

#79
post #7

I'm sure there's some Republicans on HN. I'm curious why/if you think that, if the public pressuring companies to fire people for some things (what some people call "cancelling") is wrong, it's somehow more appropriate for the government to do it? Or is this just a matter of, "well, they did it for years, now it's our turn" for you? (If you don't actually support this party, consider refraining from sharing your opin…

I don't think Republicans characterize it that way. I find myself right leaning, and while I like most of Trumps agenda, I often disagree with his tactics. I increasingly have to fact check stuff like this to see if he crossed a line. The problem is there's too much BS, summarizing, and mischaracterising going on. Direct quotes (sometimes requiring context) are needed to get to the bottom of things. It's exhausting.…

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