Playing “Minecraft” without Minecraft (2024)

Post by immibis » Fri, Sep 19, 2025, 6:34 PM UTC

freeone3000 wrote: post #48

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At the cost of inner-platform-effecting all the game code. Long-time software engineers know all about the inner platform effect - if not, see [1]. Instead of writing directly what you want, something like: new Block("mymod:mystone").setShape(Shapes.CUBE).setTexture("mymod:stone_texture").setStepSound(Sounds.STEP_ON_STONE)... you now have to do some of this inline (the part that can't be customized in data packs): ne…

I still think this is better than mod load conflicts when two mods attempt to overwrite the same Minecraft-core class file. Pre-forge modding was not good.

Post by charcircuit » Fri, Sep 19, 2025, 6:53 PM UTC

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>never provided any sort of modding support Bedrock added support for modding in 2016, 9 years ago, with resource packs and behavior packs. You can make custom entities, custom items, custom blocks, etc. There is also a marketplace available to distribute these to players, built right into the game. Java edition also has had similar things for many years.

I remember when the c++ edition came out, but have not really followed since then. Are all of the servers/mods still written in Java and it was just the desktop client that was rewritten in c++? Or is there a division between Java mods and c++ mods?

Post by darknavi » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 4:25 AM UTC

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Minecraft is wierd because all that amazing modding that is done is in spite of mojang not because of them. I have not played minecraft in a few years but I think nothing has changed. Mojang, even pre microsoft, has never provided any sort of modding support. I grew up on quake where ID would give you the game code and tools necessary to make mods. Mojang gave nothing. modding on minecraft involved decompiling the by…

>never provided any sort of modding support Bedrock added support for modding in 2016, 9 years ago, with resource packs and behavior packs. You can make custom entities, custom items, custom blocks, etc. There is also a marketplace available to distribute these to players, built right into the game. Java edition also has had similar things for many years.

Post by mcv » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 7:43 AM UTC

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By the time Mojang kills off Java, mod developers will have backported the entirety of modern Minecraft to 1.7.10.

Minecraft itself is just a mod on 1.7.10, the One True Release.

Post by tialaramex » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 7:57 AM UTC

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Java edition is night and day different. Take the pack I'm re-playing at the moment, Compact Claustrophobia. Even the opening moments of that pack are nothing related to the Minecraft game you can buy. Scraping materials from the bare walls? Not a thing in Minecraft, but the mod adds that because otherwise how are we going to make even a block of dirt. Oh right yeah, no dirt, we start inside an unbreakable [as far as…

>Not a thing in Minecraft, but the mod adds that Did you read my post? I'm saying that Bedrock has mod support built in with public documentation. There are a bunch of hooks. You can add new blocks. You can make things happen when clicking in them. You can add brand new items.