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Post by kridsdale3 »

twothreeone wrote: post #45
ryandrake wrote: post #11

I love how they randomly blame the WiFi network, like anyone is going to buy it.

Somebody said the cooking guy was some influencer person? I noticed that many non-tech people often resort to this excuse, even in situations where it makes absolutely no sense (e.g., on a desktop with only ethernet, or with mic/speakers connected via cable). It's almost like they just substitute "bad wifi" for "glitch".

It's colloquial in the younger generations to use the term Wifi to actually refer to a WAN connection to one's home or building, regardless of Physical Layer Transport.

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Post by Fricken »

rhetocj23 wrote: post #21
jaccola wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zuckerberg has negative charisma, it's painful to watch... Jobs handled this so much better; while clearly he is pissed, he doesn't leave you cringing in mutual embarrassment, goes to show it isn't as easy as he makes it look! See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M4t14s7nSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQOPFg2mo

Jobs was one of a kind. He had that aura that Bill G et al envied. He admitted so in a video that can be found on YT.

Jobs was a clear communicator who emphasized user friendly products in aesthetically pleasing boxes. If Silicon Valley wasn't the most obtuse place on earth he wouldn't have stood out nearly as hard.

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Post by dgfitz »

alangibson wrote: post #26

That wasn't prerecorded, but it was rigged. They probably practiced a few times and it confused the AI. Still it's no excuse. They've dropped Apollo-program level money on this and it's still dumb as a rock. I'm endless amazed that Meta has a ~2T market cap, yet they can't build products.

> confused the AI.

I will die on this hill. It isn’t AI. You can’t confuse it.

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Post by rgovostes »

jerlam wrote: post #20
ryandrake wrote: post #11

I love how they randomly blame the WiFi network, like anyone is going to buy it.

It's almost certainly a joke. Everyone knows that the demo failed.

A reference to the 2010 iPhone 4 demo perhaps: https://www.infoworld.com/article/2297843/steve-jobs-wi-fi-m...

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Post by [deleted] »

poidos wrote: post #60
alangibson wrote: post #26

That wasn't prerecorded, but it was rigged. They probably practiced a few times and it confused the AI. Still it's no excuse. They've dropped Apollo-program level money on this and it's still dumb as a rock. I'm endless amazed that Meta has a ~2T market cap, yet they can't build products.

It's because their main business (ads, tracking) makes infinite money so it doesn't matter what all the other parts of the business do, are, or if they work or not.

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Post by triceratops »

smelendez wrote: post #50
patrickhogan1 wrote: post #44

Credit where it’s due: doing live demos is hard. Yesterday didn’t feel staged—it looked like the classic “last-minute tweak, unexpected break.” Most builders have been there. I certainly have (I once spent 6 hours at a hackathon and broke the Flask server keying in a last minute change on the steps of the stage before going on).

Yeah, I just watched it again and I’m mostly confused why the guy interrupted what sounded like a valid response. I wonder if his audio was delayed? Or maybe the response wasn’t what they rehearsed and he was trying to get it on track?

> I’m mostly confused why the guy interrupted what sounded like a valid response

I thought they were demonstrating interruption handling.

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Post by monooso »

yallpendantools wrote: post #52

I have a friend who does magic shows. He sells his shows as magic and stand-up comedy. It's both live entertainment, okay, but he is the only person I've ever seen use that tagline. We went to see him perform once and everything became clear when he opened the night. "This is supposed to be a magic show," he told us. "But if my tricks fail you can laugh at it and we'll just do stand-up comedy." Zuck, for a modest and…

If your friend isn't already aware of Tommy Cooper [1], he's in for a treat.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Cooper

Re: Meta’s live demo fails; “AI” recording plays before the actor takes the steps

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Post by asadm »

tkamado wrote: post #51
patrickhogan1 wrote: post #44

Credit where it’s due: doing live demos is hard. Yesterday didn’t feel staged—it looked like the classic “last-minute tweak, unexpected break.” Most builders have been there. I certainly have (I once spent 6 hours at a hackathon and broke the Flask server keying in a last minute change on the steps of the stage before going on).

Live demos being hard isn't an excuse for cheating.

this isn't cheating. the models are unpredictable. This product is going out the door this month, there is no reason to cheat.

Re: Meta’s live demo fails; “AI” recording plays before the actor takes the steps

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Post by asadm »

donkyrf wrote: post #38
sampton wrote: post #22

I bet they rehearsed a dozen times and never failed as bad live. Got to give them props for keeping the live demos. Apple has neutered its demos so much it's now basically 2 hr long commercials.

The new Apple presentations are much more information dense, and tailored to the main (online) audience. They’re clearly better.

and so boring. I would take Jobs presenting a live demo than any of this heavily-produced stuff.

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Post by stavros »

jaccola wrote: post #16
timpera wrote: post #7

The failures on stage were kind of endearing, to be honest, especially the one with Zuck. Plus the products seem really cool, I hope I'll be able to try them out soon.

Zuckerberg has negative charisma, it's painful to watch... Jobs handled this so much better; while clearly he is pissed, he doesn't leave you cringing in mutual embarrassment, goes to show it isn't as easy as he makes it look! See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M4t14s7nSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQOPFg2mo

This is much better? He tossed the camera aggressively to the other person, and then made a snide comment, and that's better than blaming wifi?
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