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Learn Your Way: Reimagining Textbooks with Generative AI

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Re: Learn Your Way: Reimagining Textbooks with Generative AI

#71
I love learning new things, Khan academy got me all the way through college, and I use ChatGPT / Claude to help me study papers regularly. I got frustrated really fast. Here is an example:

https://learnyourway.withgoogle.com/scopes/1KNlGW5E/immersiv...

It starts with just this sentence, followed by a quiz on that sentence:

> When we are born, we inherit our genetic makeup and biological features. However, our identity as human beings develops through interactions with others in society. Many experts in both psychology and sociology have described the process of self-development as a key step to understanding how that "self" learns to function within society.

Followed by the quiz:

> Question 1: Based on the provided text, what is a key difference in focus between psychology and sociology regarding self-development? A) Sociology is concerned with inherited traits, whereas psychology is concerned with societal norms. B) Psychology studies societal functions, while sociology studies individual identity. C) Psychology focuses on genetic makeup, while sociology focuses on social interactions. D) Both fields exclusively study the biological features inherited at birth.

I thought D makes the most sense, as nothing in the immediate text provides a more granular answers. But it's not D. It made me question my intelligence, maybe I misread the sentence, maybe I needed to read something else? Oh there is a button for the entire PDF, but then isn't the purpose of it to break down the PDF into chunks and ask me questions on what I'm reading?

I'm sure this is a fixable bug, but I was looking for the "provide feedback" button, there is none.

This would be very frustrating to a student.

Re: Learn Your Way: Reimagining Textbooks with Generative AI

#72
> The personalization pipeline

All of this hurts. GenAI cannot replace people grounded in reality. Especially not teachers and mentors. The effects will be nauseating to anyone who cherishes the development of human beings and minds in general.

Teaching and mentoring is a two-sided thing. The mentor, if adequately tutored or capable himself, learns more than the student. I understand that this is something "we" hope to achieve for AI but it's so insanely dumb to do it this early, it almost makes me angry. Almost. These people are just doing their jobs. So, as usual, I'm calling their bosses dumb fucking pathetic shitheads of idiot trash who fucking cost our kind sooooooo much fucking potential it almost makes me angry.

Sorry, gotta keep the anger at "almost", max. Can't be angry at lack of levels of consciousness or awareness. It's beyond genetic, a decision of "culture" and conformity; back to topic:

Teaching is one of those mythical edges that hone themselves. And I don't mean just the skill, I mean the entire category, the concept, the inter-generational action that happens on absolutely all levels. GenAI in education, applied anything below "correctly" on the scale of civilization, in any interval/integral, is taking XP points off a higher dimension that is exclusive to us in the kingdom of animals.

Don't fuck this up. Don't listen to your bosses. Quit. Found your own companies. I can't put it in words, yet. I don't have the peace of mind. But it's too damn important not to mention it. Every dimwit with access to drugs and hookers can make fuck-you money. For himself and others. FUCK THAT.

Re: Learn Your Way: Reimagining Textbooks with Generative AI

#73

No one who understands ai can rely on it to help us learn. I provided one with 100 citations I wanted to standardize and it deleted 10 and made up 10 to replace them. Can’t imagine this being used to replace a textbook or even explain a textbook.

> explain a textbook I've had very good luck using LLMs to do this. I paste the part of the book that I don't understand and ask questions about it.

What you input along side the prompt can go a long way.

Re: Learn Your Way: Reimagining Textbooks with Generative AI

#74

> The personalization pipeline All of this hurts. GenAI cannot replace people grounded in reality. Especially not teachers and mentors. The effects will be nauseating to anyone who cherishes the development of human beings and minds in general. Teaching and mentoring is a two-sided thing. The mentor, if adequately tutored or capable himself, learns more than the student. I understand that this is something "we" hope…

Personalized learning pre-LLMs has been a lot of hand waving and not really supporting instructors or instructional evolution.

Re: Learn Your Way: Reimagining Textbooks with Generative AI

#75
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I'm a former physics teacher, and while I'm impressed by the technology, I think this is a low efficacy innovation. The real challenge in teaching Newton's laws of motion to teenagers is that they struggle to deal with the idea that friction isn't always there. When students enter the classroom, they arrive with an understanding of motion that they've intuited from watching things move all their lives, and that under…

I'm not a teacher, but I think a simple change to "objects in motion stay in motion" could help with teaching it. Instead, tell students that any change in motion always has a cause, then ask them for the cause in different scenarios. Why does the ball stop rolling across the room? Why does the rocket launch into space? Why does the falling feather stop as it hits the ground? Then, ask what happens if there is no cau…

The issue is their intuition for the general case is actually gathered from a special case.

You need examples that point at the general case - like Newton's cradle.

Conservation of momentum helps.

Re: Learn Your Way: Reimagining Textbooks with Generative AI

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> explain a textbook I've had very good luck using LLMs to do this. I paste the part of the book that I don't understand and ask questions about it.

But the problem is, you don't understand the passage, so therefore how will you vet the answers? Seems like hallucinations would be very very damaging in this use-case

I think your mileage will vary by subject and level.

If you’re a complete novice reading a niche graduate level textbook on Tolstoy’s critique of the Russian war effort in War and Peace, you’re going to get some wild hallucinations, and you’ll have no idea how to determine fact from fiction.

If you’re reading a high school textbook about the history of pre-revolution Russia, the models will have pretty comprehensive coverage of every concept you’re likely to come across.

Re: Learn Your Way: Reimagining Textbooks with Generative AI

#77
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems legit, I'll have to try later. Just curious, why didn't you make this a commercial SaaS?

maybe because every LLM provider has an "attach file" feature so you can attach a paper and then ask questions about it? what's the value add of the wrapper that this person wrote at all?

I built it because it was tiresome to save the pdf, open a new window, add it and give a prompt.

Simply replacing the domain arxiv.org with asxiv.org does all that for me now.

Also it links to pages in it's answers and scrolls the pdf to it on click, allowing to view the pdf side by side with the chat.

Re: Learn Your Way: Reimagining Textbooks with Generative AI

#78
post #10

I'm a former physics teacher, and while I'm impressed by the technology, I think this is a low efficacy innovation. The real challenge in teaching Newton's laws of motion to teenagers is that they struggle to deal with the idea that friction isn't always there. When students enter the classroom, they arrive with an understanding of motion that they've intuited from watching things move all their lives, and that under…

You should have asked the head of languages to teach you tensor calculus.

I don’t have a firm opinion one way or another about that idea that a “great teacher can teach any subject” but it does bring to my mind the other idea that teachers are increasingly becoming “learning coaches” who aren’t only transferring knowledge into the students, but who are rather encouraging them to develop self-awareness about their own learning.

Re: Learn Your Way: Reimagining Textbooks with Generative AI

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How much of this is cutesy animations and how much is really valuable?

This feels at first glance like another instance of an AI tool doing something humans already enjoy doing, rather than replacing work we'd like to avoid. The teachers and professor I've known have always loved adapting their lessons to suit the interests of their students - I think that's a core educational instruction skill. I'm open to hearing disagreements, but reading through the usages and evaluations does not l…

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Re: Learn Your Way: Reimagining Textbooks with Generative AI

#80

I wonder how this will contribute to our current declining literacy rates in a social climate that's already rife with anti-intellectualism and isolation. Even if this worked well, it appears to be to be a step backwards. Call me pessimistic, but this technology looks more poised to replace teachers in schools than supplement them.

Cultural obituaries are often premature, and the one for literacy is no exception. A nascent contrary impulse is emerging: readers deliberately turning to long-form works as a form of intellectual resistance. I’ve been working through Norman Lewis’s Word Power Made Easy and Tom Heehler’s The Well-Spoken Thesaurus, not just to expand vocabulary but to restore the sinew of productive speech.

That project led me to conscript AI as a private tutor. With custom instructions, ChatGPT and Gemini now surface new words and nudge my prose toward clarity, turning a vague fear of erosion into conviction. A dedicated subset of users will inevitably harness such tools to strengthen their expressive range and communicative precision.

Until recently, my writing rarely left emails and journals. Now, with AI as scaffold and sparring partner, I draft short stories from my own life and recast them in the voices of authors I admire. This feels less like a technology poised to supplant teachers, and more like the substrate for a renaissance in autodidactic education.

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