Tesla is looking to redesign its door handles following trapped-passenger report
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Re: Tesla is looking to redesign its door handles following trapped-passenger report
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#3You would think the therac-25 was enough of an engineering lesson on designing safety-critical systems in software that lack hardware redundancy. Maybe they didn't consider the door handles "safety critical".
Re: Tesla is looking to redesign its door handles following trapped-passenger report
#4You would think the therac-25 was enough of an engineering lesson on designing safety-critical systems in software that lack hardware redundancy. Maybe they didn't consider the door handles "safety critical".
Elon does watch or understand USCSB or their videos, he defunds them because he "knows better".
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Re: Tesla is looking to redesign its door handles following trapped-passenger report
#6You would think the therac-25 was enough of an engineering lesson on designing safety-critical systems in software that lack hardware redundancy. Maybe they didn't consider the door handles "safety critical".
I don't know about hardware redundancy, but yes for at least "easily verifiable limiters".
What is "hardware" anyway? Does a microcontroller-based integrator or debouncer count? Depending on how you define that, it can become a serious roadblocker. But anyway, I guess that point is moot for a door handle, you can fix it with stuff that is unambiguously hardware.
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#7Electric retractable door handles is such a stupid gimmick.
I once pulled over to help a stranded Model S driver with a flat tire in the Mojave desert. Every door handle had a zip tie hanging off it because they _all_ had failed present mechanisms.
Junk
Re: Tesla is looking to redesign its door handles following trapped-passenger report
#8hopefully someday someone will solve door handles once and for all, but until then the tesla engineers will soldier on
Re: Tesla is looking to redesign its door handles following trapped-passenger report
#9You would think the therac-25 was enough of an engineering lesson on designing safety-critical systems in software that lack hardware redundancy. Maybe they didn't consider the door handles "safety critical".
Another lesson not learnt from therac-25 (and really most disasters caused by humans) is that safety is a cultural issue, that needs to be taken seriously from top to bottom in the organization.
This is clearly not the case with Tesla.
Re: Tesla is looking to redesign its door handles following trapped-passenger report
#10I don't own a Tesla, but I've been a passenger in well north of 100 different ones over the years (Uber/Bolt/etc.) and had no idea there even was a mechanical release. In the event of an emergency I would... not fare well.
Years ago (decades now?) I remember James May on Top Gear doing a segment where he was looking for the first mass-produced car that "looked like a car". Of course there have been tons of changes, but it's also amazing to me how much some things are still the same 100 years later.
Particularly when it comes to safety devices it just seems like you shouldn't mess with that combination of intuitive design and ingrained societal learning from media. It's literally something a child can do...