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Post by nobody9999 »

davesque wrote: post #210
_9za9 wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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MAGA did, in fact, do their best over the weekend to cast the shooter as anything other than one of them. Comments made in poor taste? Maybe? Not really? No poorer taste than the president saying on Fox & Friends that he "couldn't care less" about promoting unity after the Kirk shooting. Next point, from NYTimes article covering this: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/17/business/media/abc-jimmy-... "The abrupt decisio…

>So yes, ABC/Nexstar are within their editorial rights to make this decision, but that decision came at an awfully conspicuous time. So what, nothing to see here?

{Paraphrasing for those who don't get it]

Brendan Carr: That Kimmel guy sure is a pill. Will no one rid me of this meddlesome comic?

Hey ABC, It would be a shame if something bad happened to you guys, wouldn't it? In fact, let's do some investigating to make sure everything is on the up and up, yeah?[0]

ABC: How High?

[0] Right out of the authoritarians' playbook: "For my friends, everything. For my enemies, the law."

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Post by ceejayoz »

raxxorraxor wrote: post #679
ceejayoz wrote: post #670

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The First Amendment protects my rights to say you are being an asshole. The First Amendment also forbids the government from punishing you for merely being an asshole.

Yeah, that argument too. I didn't mention the first amendment though. For example it is also a requirement for basic science within the framework of enlightenment. I get the xkcd and it certainly has a valid context. This is not it though. This retort just underlines a perspective that is characterized by severe lack of foresight, simple as that.

Perspective: “you can’t point out that I’m being an asshole to my friends and employers” is very non-free-speech. First Amendment or not.

Doubly so when the people saying you can’t are the government.

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Post by DengistKhan »

mkfs wrote: post #657
gsf_emergency_2 wrote: post #600

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Family is staunchly republican, tho the perp himself went indy in the last few elections. Being gay doesn't say anything, Thiel's gay bf killed himself for what seems like political issues too (& might have been Indy like perp-- or, say sama) https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/9/15/charlie-kirk-ki...

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I haven't seen any by unhinged leftists, however I have seen countless normal people tired of hate, authoritarianism, racism, anti-women, anti-science, and anti-infrastructure, and narcissistic tendencies by their parents, who are often MAGA or QAnoners.

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Post by LeafItAlone »

cebert wrote: post #677
pogue wrote: post #193

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The 2nd part is the quote from Jimmy Kimmel that he said on air that caused the "controversy", that resulted in the FCC commissioner, Brendan Carr to go on a podcast and threaten ABC/Disney with retaliatory action if they refused to take Kimmel off the air. CNN doesn't show a clip, but explains what was said & the events that caused this. https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/17/business/video/abc-jimmy-kimm... Never believe t…

This isn’t a free-speech issue. Kimmel was free to say what he said, and I personally don’t find his comments egregiously offensive. However, clearly some people did. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. In this case, his employer responded to partner backlash over his remarks.

> However, clearly some people did. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. In this case, his employer responded to partner backlash over his remarks.

Government officials also threatened to pull the government provided broadcasting licenses that the corporation has. That’s free speech related.

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Post by LeafItAlone »

MacsHeadroom wrote: post #669
DangitBobby wrote: post #295

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I'm not seeing much evidence of his political leaning (other than his choice of target, of course). Can you share some of this evidence?

From the murderer's text messages: > Roommate: Why? > Robinson: Why did I do it? > Roommate: Yeah > Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. Besides everyone around him testifying that he'd been left-wing ever since dropping out of college, his admission that he found Charlie's relatively moderate speech "hateful" strongly suggests the murderer was quite far to the left.

> his admission that he found Charlie's relatively moderate speech "hateful" strongly suggests the murderer was quite far to the left

Ridiculous conclusion. Empathetic Right Wing people can also have found his speech hateful. Have you actually listened to any of it?

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Post by nobody9999 »

gusgus01 wrote: post #615
themaninthedark wrote: post #589

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So earlier I took a look at the wiki list of Domestic Terrorism incidents. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_terrorism_in_the_Un... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45207030 Over the last 40 years: 8/16 attacks on that list are linked to White Supremacists(Counting OKC) ~50% In the last 15 years, again about 50% are linked to White Supremacists and ~41% linked to Radical Islam.

Are you analyzing the list of "Notable Domestic Terrorist Attacks" on that page? Which has already been filtered by some criteria of notability? A more complete list is actually prompted at the top of that section and is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_Stat... . However, you've possibly read that already since you're 41% number appears to be sourced from that page and is specifically talking a…

The link you referenced[0] also includes this:

   A 2017 report by The Nation Institute and the Center for Investigative 
   Reporting analyzed a list of the terrorist incidents which occurred in the US 
   between 2008 and 2016.[27] It found:[28]

   115 far-right inspired terrorist incidents. 35% of these incidents were 
   foiled (this number means that no terrorist attacks occurred) and 29% of them 
   resulted in fatalities. These incidents caused 79 deaths.
   
   63 Islamist inspired terrorist incidents. 76% of these terrorist incidents 
   were foiled (this number means that no terrorist attacks occurred) and 13% of 
   them resulted in fatalities. These incidents caused 90 deaths.

   19 far-left inspired terrorist incidents. 20% of these terrorist incidents 
   were foiled (this number means that no terrorist attacks occurred) and 10% of 
   them resulted in fatalities. Two of these incidents were described as 
   "plausibly" attributed to a perpetrator with left-wing sympathies and caused 
   7 deaths. These are not included in the official government database.[15]
So out of 197 incidents reported between 2008 and 2016, 58% were "Far Right" inspired, 32% were "Islamist" inspired and 10% were "Far left" inspired.

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_Stat...

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Post by tim333 »

perihelions wrote: post #656
uncircle wrote: post #644

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Yeah, how did satire fare when Hitler was in power? Let's perhaps say that if satire doesn't directly prevent authoritarianism, it works as a very effective canary in the mine.

The last criticism of Nazism was a very milquetoast 1934 speech by a Nazi, Franz von Papen, who though supporting Adolf Hitler detracted in some (seemingly) lesser ways—decrying the fanaticism of Hitler's personality cult. He was severely punished for it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marburg_speech ( "...said to be the last speech made publicly, and on a high level, in Germany against National Socialism..." ) An iro…

The last high level public criticism within Germany. Nazis of course still got criticism and satire elsewhere. Hitler Has Only Got One Ball and the like leading up to their defeat and Hitler shooting himself in a bunker.

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Post by LeafItAlone »

dawnerd wrote: post #599
wqaatwt wrote: post #511

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There was a strong reaction from the public. Unfortunately that’s why this happened.. affiliate networks refusing to air his show probably had a much bigger impact than the FCC

FCC threatened Nexstar and all the others that run affiliate networks. Nexstar is trying to merge with Tegna. It's pretty clear how this was a very easy threat for the FCC to make. Without the affiliates ABC has no real audience outside of streaming, and late night shows have already been lagging with ratings. I hate it but really what other option did they have? Disney has never been a company to really fight back u…

> I hate it but really what other option did they have? Disney has never been a company to really fight back unless it was about their bottom line.

How about sue the government just the like numerous other times they have? But that wouldn’t work in today’s world where the justice department is practically another appendage of the President himself.

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Post by LeafItAlone »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #352

This feels like an overreach, maybe. The FCC does have the strange task of regulating "false information" [1], but in practice I don't think that gets invoked very often (I'm sure morning DJs would be fired en masse if they were actually held to the standard of proven, objective truth!) I'm hoping that this is just the high watermark, and not the new standard. [1] - https://www.fcc.gov/sites/default/files/broadcastin…

> I'm hoping that this is just the high watermark, and not the new standard.

How long until Fallon and Myers after the president all but threatened them? Guess we’ll find out how high this water will go.

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Post by spl757 »

suzdude wrote: post #614

Mel Brooks had the right of it. Fascism and Authoritarianism is defeated by satire and mockery. The ideology is too outrageous to survive any such scrutiny. Why else would the administration be so afraid of a few jokes?

This is exactly what Gavin Newsom is doing. It holds a mirror up and forces the right to address the ridiculousness of how trump communicates.
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