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ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody has provided any evidence that I've seen that the murderer was motivated by a right-wing anything, and frankly as the least logical conclusion it needs sources. I read that the person who turned him in (or an acquaintance) said that he was the only leftist in a family of hard right people. [Apologies for the lack of source; I read it as news was breaking and don't have the link] It's a nonsensical argument tha…

>We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it Mr. Kimmel does not assert Mr. Robinson was "MAGA". Simply that the, "MAGA gang" is trying to distance themselves from Mr. Robinson.

> Mr. Kimmel does not assert Mr. Robinson was "MAGA".

He absolutely did insinuate just that.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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The left wing cancel culture era was stupid, annoying, and wrong, and this upcoming right wing era is bound to be much more stupid, annoying, and wrong.

I, too, remember when Obama has the FCC commissioner threaten to revoke broadcast licenses for the coverage of his tan suit. This type of both-sides-ism is dumb, especially here when one side is using the power of the federal government to get dissenting voices taken off the air.

In the 2019 through at least 2022, Government agencies were "recommending" and "cautioning" social media companies on topics such as COVID and stories about laptops.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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This feels like an overreach, maybe. The FCC does have the strange task of regulating "false information" [1], but in practice I don't think that gets invoked very often (I'm sure morning DJs would be fired en masse if they were actually held to the standard of proven, objective truth!) I'm hoping that this is just the high watermark, and not the new standard. [1] - https://www.fcc.gov/sites/default/files/broadcastin…

“Maybe?” Regulating “false information?” There was no false information and the substance of the clip is just video of a person responding to a question.

If regulating false information is actually a part of the FCCs job, Fox "News" should have been shut down long ago.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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I am largely neutral on this particular assassination, as I knew almost nothing about Mr. Kirk prior to his departure (just name recognition & basic political associations). But I do think, after decades of reflection, that comedians are correct when they point out that stereotypical humor shouldn't be off limits to any performer (of any background/color), but is... e.g. Owen Benjamin, Chappelle, Seinfeld .

> I am largely neutral on this particular assassination could you list the assassinations that you are not neutral on? I feel the list could be interesting if not prolly infamous

Harambe, for one.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm somewhat convinced that (at least among the younger generation) the role that these talkshow hosts held has already been replaced by live streamers and podcasters. Even Conan has transitioned into primarily focusing on podcasts while others refused to adapt and stuck to the networks. 10 years ago I'm fairly certain these moves would have been met with a strong reaction from the public, but now nobody cares...

It seems like there is, and will be, a strong reaction from the public (I may, of course, be hoping for something I'd like to see). This thread is certainly active with those critical of the administration. Note, the public at large did not know what Kimmel said until now. The Streisand effect is coming into play, because it was so uncontroversial. The podcast part, I agree, although it's sad in someways, as it demol…

Personally i cancelled my disney+ subscription for this (paid for via verizon) and made sure to explicitly say why. I encourage others to do the same.

I don't care about Jimmey Kimmel's jokes nor do I watch his show with any regularity -- but I sure as hell care about his right to make jokes.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's rough when very basic premises, "political violence, no matter who causes it, is abhorrent," are up for debate. The minority people who support, defend, ignore, or rationalize actions which have no place in this country is a major part of the issue. Turn on the largest mainstream media "news" channel, and you'll hear nothing but mindless hate for 20 hours a day, without consideration for what actual news is occu…

> support, defend, ignore, or rationalize actions So up until this point it was perfectly acceptable? Or is this only an issue when the wrong side does it in a fairly moderate way (since the other side regularly and openly embraces and encourages political violence).

For rational people, it has never been acceptable, it will never be acceptable.

However, some people support and vote for, a president who has told his supporters to perform acts of violence against those whose speech he disagrees with, clearly a portion of the population doesn't mind.

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Why the heck is this 600+ comment thread not on the front page?

Probably penalized due to political themes being discouraged on HN.

Which is IMO a bad decision. You can ignore politics, but politics won't ignore you.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Coming soon: broadcast is pulled after host’s comments disparage the current administration.

That is unironically what happened here. The comments Kimmel made here did not disparage Kirk, but rather the administration's reaction to his shooting.

“The Maga Gang [is] desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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I expected Kimmel to have somehow criticized Kirk, a dubious enough reason to pull the show. But this isn’t even that. Comments quoted in stories assert that the shooter was MAGA - maybe that’s somewhat controversial, but it’s ludicrous to suggest it’s offensive. That paired with comments criticizing the Dear Leader were enough. This is a new low in corporate cowardice toward Trump bullying.

It's extremely relevant. The person grew up "conservative" and was radicalized to the left in college. The reason this is important is that it's a trend. If the trend isn't acknowledged on the left, then it will just continue.

Are you seriously suggesting that Utah State University, a school that is often on people's lists of the most conservative colleges in the US, radicalized him to the left? And they managed to do that in the one semester he attended?
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