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Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by daemonologist »

zmmmmm wrote: post #81
wronglebowski wrote: post #22

The live demo of this is brutal. https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1968469616545452055

If you watch it carefully, he preempts the AI with "What do I do first" before it even answered the first time. This strongly suggests it did this in rehearsal to me and hence was far more than just "bad luck" or bad connectivity. Perhaps the bad connectivity stopped the override from working and it just kept repeating the previous response. Either way it suggests some troubling early implications about how well Meta…

I think preempting the AI the first time was meant to be a feature (it's not trivial to implement and is something people often ask for). Failing from there definitely wasn't great, although it's kind of what I'd expect from an(y) LLM.

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Post by swalsh »

bayarearefugee wrote: post #225
SchemaLoad wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These companies are reaching really hard for use cases while ignoring the only ones VR actually works well for. If they just went all in on gaming it would be a much better product than trying to push AI slop cooking help.

As a gamer, in my experience people don't want to play VR games either. Beat Saber as a social party experience with friends in the same room, sure, that's fun... but for day to day gaming the amount of people who want to play VR games on the regular is nearly zero. If they really want to lean into the VR use case that people want, its porn, but I suspect they won't put that front and center.

I LOVED VR gaming, but after playing the same 2 games for 10 years, it never really evolved. They stopped innovating and went all in on AR.

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Post by ghm2199 »

ghm2199 wrote: post #227

Zuckerberg's online actually quite slick @30 WPM. Brand concerns aside, its a good tech leap forward for this fidelity of communication using gestures(and costs will fall as apple, google, 3rd party get into this). You have to realize that there are only smart glasses in the market which are 1/2 way between smart and AR/VR and at the moment none have any AR/VR that are commercially at this price point or massively av…

I would also say several other less known software and data breakthroughs are probably going to also help this tech

1. A world wide localization map that can let the glasses SLAM system do useful things.

2. I believe the Puck runs on a custom OS. The glasses are probably on somekind of a real time Microcontroller driven thing(would be surprised if its much more than firmware, code wise) that needs to efficiently package sensor data and send it over BLE to the puck/wristband. I am not sure they have open sourced those two components.

I hope they open source both of those for public good.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by bitmasher9 »

paxys wrote: post #236
JKCalhoun wrote: post #115

They have a brand problem. Absolutely no way I buy anything from Meta.

Meta has close to 4 billion people worldwide using one or more of their products. Their brand problem doesn't extend much further than the HN comment section.

Instagram or WhatsApp are absolutely critical for daily functioning in certain circles of humanity.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by TheDong »

Octoth0rpe wrote: post #237
TheDong wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As opposed to now? Everywhere you go in public, people are holding their phone up watching tiktok or such. There's no recording indicator on phones, they could be recording you. Heck, go to a tourist location, like a famous area of london or tokyo or new york, and there'll be dozens of wannabe influencers holding up gopros on selfie sticks. It's too late. It's already happening. If it has a chilling effect, we're alr…

> wannabe influencers holding up gopros on selfie sticks I think there's a huge difference in how one perceives these as a privacy/self-censoring risk. Yes, a bunch of tourists with their gopros might catch me in the background, but I think it's reasonable to assume that their intended target is themselves, and catching me in the background is incidental. If someone is recording with their glasses, basically by defin…

Holding a phone in front of your face in public is so normalized at this point that targeted recording is not a matter of hardware, but of someone wanting to do it.

As you point out, most influencer-types aren't aimed at you.

That generalizes pretty well, with or without glasses, no one cares about recording you, other than incidentally as part of the background

If someone does want to target recording you, i.e. you're a semi-famous idol or such, they'll just pretend to watch tiktoks on their phone and record without an indicator, right? At least the glasses have an indicator, unlike phones.

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Post by ugh123 »

aacook wrote: post #99

It seems like there are a lot of negative comments about Meta's glasses which is surprising to me as a regular user. I bought these both in clear and sunglasses and I love them. I've recorded some of the most amazing videos of my baby with them. Listening to music is fantastic as it's different from regular headphones since you can still hear the world around you — I've even done a few longer bike rides with them and…

What's the sweat issue about? Does the display fog up?

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by stavros »

dmbche wrote: post #208
stavros wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the Meta glasses and I've never noticed this, and don't even understand why it could be the connection's fault. The AI gets your audio and your image, if it gives the wrong answer, it's because the AI went wrong. How would the bad connection ever affect it?

The ai is in the cloud Edit0: ie without internet access the ai is unable to produce an answer other than some prerecorded ones I guess In the live showcase the presenter even mentions that the wifi must have been bad for the ai to repeat the answer

You're saying "you've already used the first two ingredients, so go ahead and add the sauce" is the prerecorded response when it doesn't have a connection?

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by paxys »

ptmcc wrote: post #202
garbawarb wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't want to wear earbuds while doing anything active, the chance of them falling out is too high.

I've run many hundreds of hours with two variations of AirPods and they've never once fallen out

Not everyone's ears are the same. MKBHD famously does not use Airpods because he can't get them to stay in. I have tried jogging a couple times with Airpods Pro and they pop out every time.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by throwoutway »

al_borland wrote: post #164
JKCalhoun wrote: post #115

They have a brand problem. Absolutely no way I buy anything from Meta.

This is my #1 issue. I simply don’t trust them and I don’t know that there is a realistic path to build that trust at this point. They’ve been violating my trust for decades. I’m happy to let them prove out the tech, and if/when a company enters the market with a compelling product that I can trust, I will consider that competing product.

OP is taking videos of his baby with these when Meta's page here doesn't event mention data privacy or security of the user's information or how it protects them
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