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ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by DengistKhan »

alsetmusic wrote: post #259

My comment was slightly too late to get migrated, so apologies for reposting it: And yet, my mother, who voted for this admin, would stand by the statement that we live in the free'est country in the world. The truly horrific thing is that it's death by a thousand cuts, rather than the huge tyrannical violation that would cause people to stream out into the streets for change.

Yeah nobody is going out into the streets over this, but I suspect the one that does is anytime from tomorrow to 1 year from now.

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Post by dylan604 »

davesque wrote: post #303
mrtesthah wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In that case, going by the FCC's complaint against Kimmel, I wonder if my pointing out that Trump furthermore skipped Kirk's vigil to go golfing, is similarly "too offensive to be protected by the first amendment"? https://people.com/donald-trump-misses-charlie-kirk-vigil-11...

By this precedent, it would be!

But mrtesthah has no audience that makes him dangerous to the establishment. He's just a random voice in the wind.

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Post by tptacek »

moogly wrote: post #310
tptacek wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know that the FCC is what is scaring anyone so much as the FTC/DOJ; Nexstar, the largest local affiliate operator in the country, is working on a huge merger, and pulled Kimmel independently. I'm sure they're all getting galactic-scale complaints about this. I get why this is all activating and like I guess I agree, it's obviously bad , but it's also really stupid. These are programs written for middle-aged s…

This isn't at all about Kimmel though. This is about giving the administration a free win and a continual slide into more censorship (voluntary or not) and authoritarianism. This will egg them on even more. Who cares about Kimmel. You think they will stop at television? They'll deplatform people on the alternate media next, YouTube, Twitch, Kick, etc. They've already started to look at Twitch this very week. Will you…

"Will you even notice when your train has arrived at the Gulag?"? What does that even mean?

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Post by kccoder »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #352

This feels like an overreach, maybe. The FCC does have the strange task of regulating "false information" [1], but in practice I don't think that gets invoked very often (I'm sure morning DJs would be fired en masse if they were actually held to the standard of proven, objective truth!) I'm hoping that this is just the high watermark, and not the new standard. [1] - https://www.fcc.gov/sites/default/files/broadcastin…

It’s absolutely an overreach and there’s no chance this is the high water mark. Things are going to get much, much worse before there’s any hope of things calming down.

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Post by rolph »

cloverich wrote: post #332
baobun wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What causes very active discussions like this to drop off the front page so quickly? Supposedly posts with very high comments/upvote ratio are automatically classified as toxic and downranked. That combined with random users flagging it, presumably. In any case, seems more algorithmic than editorial (which is not to say that the latter never occurs around here in general)

Actually fascinating to really think of it as the inverse of what most social media platforms do these days, which is the opposite. HNs is a fairly typical "lock threads that degrade to flamewars" strategy that i first encountered more than 20 years ago.

an elegant weapon from an older, less civilized time.

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Post by rolph »

panarchy wrote: post #301
StumpChunkman wrote: post #240

What causes very active discussions like this to drop off the front page so quickly? I saw another newer post that was probably made because the poster didn't see this post, and a comment made in there linked to this discussion.

It's kind of weird the HN transfers comments on dupes but not upvotes

dupes split the discussion up all over the board.

they get merged to a single discussion.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by suzdude »

Redoubts wrote: post #408
suzdude wrote: post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are multiple statements from his relatives that his family are "MAGA", his parents are Registered Republicans. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/ty... It seems he was "raised right", with easy access to firearms and ammunition. Items not nearly as common in left voting urban areas. However, Mr. Kimmel's comments centered on the fact that his political leanings, and reasoning for the scho…

> There are multiple statements from his relatives that his family are "MAGA", his parents are Registered Republicans. Most leftists despise their parents politics. None of this suggests a rightward leaning of the culprit himself.

> Most leftists despise their parents[sic] politics.

And do you have a source on that? Anecdotally, most "leftists" I know have left leaning parents. But it's up to the person to define if they are or are not "leftist", because it's a rather narrow, small minded world view that has to define things in those terms.

> None of this suggests a rightward leaning of the culprit himself.

Nor does it suggest his leftward leaning. Maybe it suggests why he used violence as a means to enact social change on the world.

edit:spelling

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Post by [deleted] »

JohnFen wrote: post #181
tonfreed wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would we defend the rights of someone that refuses to defend ours?

Because "their" rights and "our" rights (whoever "us" and "them" happen to be) are one and the same. You wouldn't be defending or attacking "their" rights, you'd be defending or attacking rights in general, and that includes yours.

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Post by an0malous »

refurb wrote: post #384
StumpChunkman wrote: post #240

What causes very active discussions like this to drop off the front page so quickly? I saw another newer post that was probably made because the poster didn't see this post, and a comment made in there linked to this discussion.

Because discussions that go political are quite boring. There are a million sites you can go on to find such “discussions” so HN doesn’t feel like it’s the type of content that aligns well with its ethos.

At least change the name to VibeCodingBroNews then and stop appropriating "hacker." The founders of the computing industry were activists, I don't know any real hacker that would flag down posts about government censorship.

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Post by zzzeek »

StumpChunkman wrote: post #240

What causes very active discussions like this to drop off the front page so quickly? I saw another newer post that was probably made because the poster didn't see this post, and a comment made in there linked to this discussion.

hacker news moderation does not like political stories. it's explicitly in the guidelines of what not to post: "If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic."

it is of course in the interests of billionaire-owned companies like YC to keep the community all about "hacking" and "getting VC money" and away from rightfully discussing the most alarming period in the US' history since the Civil War. because hackers need to be at their screens spinning more gold for them and not getting disillusioned by the ongoing collapse of society into an authoritarian dystopia.

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