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Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

#21

I love that large companies keep showing us more and more often why you really, really shouldn't rely on them.

Over a long enough time frame, this also includes any small company with ambitions to become a large company. Tiny Speck started in 2009 with a $1.5M seed round, before pivoting to Slack, before the $27B Salesforce acquisition.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

#23

I love that large companies keep showing us more and more often why you really, really shouldn't rely on them.

I’m sure smarter people have better terms for this but it feels like a sort of late stage capitalism thing where there’s really no room for anyone who first and foremost wants to do good things, at scale. I’m curious now, what’s the largest company that’s clearly passing up additional revenue because they prefer to say, “nah we’re good. The current business model makes us enough money.”

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>By 2019, Deng had turned his attention to consumer goods. Pool robots, though low-profile, offered untapped potential, especially in markets like the US, where high labor costs made automation more appealing.

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Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

#24

I love that large companies keep showing us more and more often why you really, really shouldn't rely on them.

It’s not even really just large companies, even though the extortion, predation, and vulture tactics tend to be rolled out once market capture and network effect has been achieved, which tends to correlate with being larger companies.

Frankly, we should all have learned by now after example upon example of this bait and switch type behavior being pulled on us. They lure the children into their windowless panel van with the candy of a cool offering and then violate us once they’ve slammed the doors shut and have us captured. Why are we still falling for this trap of becoming dependent on these hosted services?

Is it laziness? Lack of competence? Comfort? Stupidity? Foolishness? After shooting ourselves in the feet several times whose fault are these types of things? We know the predators will predate … Why do we still wander into their jaws?

We know there are open source Slack alternatives. Is it education? Is it naive contract terms? What makes us so foolish?

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

#26

I love that large companies keep showing us more and more often why you really, really shouldn't rely on them.

I’m sure smarter people have better terms for this but it feels like a sort of late stage capitalism thing where there’s really no room for anyone who first and foremost wants to do good things, at scale. I’m curious now, what’s the largest company that’s clearly passing up additional revenue because they prefer to say, “nah we’re good. The current business model makes us enough money.”

37signals?

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

#28

I love that large companies keep showing us more and more often why you really, really shouldn't rely on them.

It’s not even really just large companies, even though the extortion, predation, and vulture tactics tend to be rolled out once market capture and network effect has been achieved, which tends to correlate with being larger companies. Frankly, we should all have learned by now after example upon example of this bait and switch type behavior being pulled on us. They lure the children into their windowless panel van wi…

> What makes us so foolish?

High time preference. The free stuff is here today, and the pain will only come much later, so I can disregard it for now.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

#29

I love that large companies keep showing us more and more often why you really, really shouldn't rely on them.

It’s not even really just large companies, even though the extortion, predation, and vulture tactics tend to be rolled out once market capture and network effect has been achieved, which tends to correlate with being larger companies. Frankly, we should all have learned by now after example upon example of this bait and switch type behavior being pulled on us. They lure the children into their windowless panel van wi…

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