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Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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post #47

Well, Apple might be Cooked (pun very much intended). Tim is apparently very focused on AI glasses, but here is Meta with display-enabled glasses a year before Apple is planning to release anything. Source: https://www.macrumors.com/2025/05/21/apple-smart-glasses-eve... or some other Mark Gurman leak

We all love to say this, but everyone forgets: Apple has never beaten competitors by being the first – they’ve beaten them by being the best. Personal computers? Apple wasn’t first. Smartphones with screens? Apple wasn’t first. Tablets? Not first by a mile. True Wireless Earbuds? Nope, not at all first. Smartwatches? Hell no, not first. And yet, Apple’s a category leader in every single one of these areas. I don’t th…

I think it's a "yes but" here. AI is the first transition point since the smartphone. Apple knows how to make hardware, and knows how to make software. I am extremely unconvinced Apple has a clue about what to do with AI.

You can't just jump in, the lead up to getting this stuff going is a 5 year+ horizon, and Google, Meta, OpenAI and Anthropic are still moving exceptionally fast. Apple has shown they are nowhere near. They missed the boat on buying Anthropic, OpenAI was never going to sell with Musk behind it. There's no path forward for them, let alone catching up.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

#103
post #28

The live demo of this is brutal. https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1968469616545452055

This is why Jobs spent months prepping for each presentation. But hey, at least it's not all faked

"At least it's not faked" was my main reaction, too. Some other big-tech AI-related demos the last couple years have been caught being faked.

Zuckerberg handling it reasonably well was nice.

(Though the tone at the end of "we'll go check out what he made later" sounded dismissive. The blame-free post-mortem will include each of the personnel involved in the failure, in a series of one-on-one MMA sparring rounds. "I'm up there, launching a milestone in a trillion-dollar strategic push, and you left me @#$*&^ my @#*$&^@#( like a #@&#^@! I'll show you post-mortem!")

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

#104
post #3

> you can accomplish everyday tasks—like checking messages, previewing photos, and collaborating with visual Meta AI prompts — all without needing to pull out your phone. Why do I need to pay $800 for this? I already paid a grand to have a phone disrupt my every waking moment!

Now you can wear clothes without pockets.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

#105
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you also ban cellphones in your office? And email? Text messaging? If an employee wants to steal your IP, they will.

I'm not unreasonably worried about my coworkers, compared to a software-controlled camera they'd be wearing on their heads and pointing at our code, internal docs, customer information, etc. And yes, if someone made a habit of pointing their cellphone camera at the screen all day, I would ask them to please knock it off. I don't trust Facebook installing cameras in our workspace, or trust that they couldn't be compro…

Indeed. Time and time again Facebook/Meta has secretly or openly breached privacy boundaries for their own gain. They cannot be trusted with user data.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

#106
post #11

Pretty cool hardware. Count me in if and when it supports interesting software.

There's the rub isn't it? We've been doing AR for over ten years at this point and I can't name a single blockbuster app besides Pokemon Go.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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post #73
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was at Meta (then facebook), people lived and died by the live demo creedo. Pitches can be spun, data is cherry picked. But the proof is always in the pudding. This is embarrassing for sure, but from the ashes of this failure we find the resolve to make the next version better.

why did they choose to air this live? For an internal team sure absolutely, but for public-facing work, prerecorded is the way to go

One of my internships was preparing Bill Gate's demo machines for CES. I setup custom machine images and ran through scripts to make sure everything went off w/o a hitch (I was doing just the demos for Tablet PC, each org presumably had their own team preparing the demos!)

Not doing it live would've been an embarrassment. I don't think the thought ever crossed anyone's mind, of course we'd do it live. Sure the machines were super customized, bare bones Windows installs stripped back to the minimum amount of software needed for just one demo, but at the end of the day it sure as hell was real software running up there on stage.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

#108
post #39

I believe the wristband came from this acquisition: https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/23/20881032/facebook-ctrl-la... Insanely cool, and awesome to see a viable wave guide device. It's so cool that it might outweigh my reluctance to strap facebook to my face.

Disney is about to have a serious talk with Facebook. Disney Research has had a prototype on gesture detection via wristband electric sensing tech since 2012: https://youtu.be/E4tYpXVTjxA?t=2m8s

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

#109
post #47

Well, Apple might be Cooked (pun very much intended). Tim is apparently very focused on AI glasses, but here is Meta with display-enabled glasses a year before Apple is planning to release anything. Source: https://www.macrumors.com/2025/05/21/apple-smart-glasses-eve... or some other Mark Gurman leak

We all love to say this, but everyone forgets: Apple has never beaten competitors by being the first – they’ve beaten them by being the best. Personal computers? Apple wasn’t first. Smartphones with screens? Apple wasn’t first. Tablets? Not first by a mile. True Wireless Earbuds? Nope, not at all first. Smartwatches? Hell no, not first. And yet, Apple’s a category leader in every single one of these areas. I don’t th…

To be fair, Meta is also not the first company to launch smart glasses with a display.

But the reality of it is that it's probably still to early to say if these devices will have mainstream appeal. I see a lot of people saying "well, i no longer need to take the phone out my pocket", but that has been the case for a couple of years with smartwatches, for example, and it has not meaningfully changed our dependency from the smartphone or the smartphone market dynamics that much.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

#110
Neural band is huge, glad they're shipping it already rather than waiting (years?) for a production version of Orion (the full AR glasses they demo'd a year ago together with this neural band). TheVerge found the controls great, even tried an alpha of handwriting for text input: https://youtu.be/5cVGKvl7Oek

These glasses are just "annotated reality" rather than full AR, with just 1 small display; think Google Glass but 100x more discreet. So discreet input and output on a device with a camera.

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