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Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by zmmmmm »

wronglebowski wrote: post #22

The live demo of this is brutal. https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1968469616545452055

If you watch it carefully, he preempts the AI with "What do I do first" before it even answered the first time. This strongly suggests it did this in rehearsal to me and hence was far more than just "bad luck" or bad connectivity. Perhaps the bad connectivity stopped the override from working and it just kept repeating the previous response. Either way it suggests some troubling early implications about how well Meta's AI work is going to me, that they got this stuck on the main live demo for their flagship product on such a simple thing.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by dylan604 »

geuis wrote: post #69

Interesting tech, but the item is completely without any attractive style. Look up "army birth control glasses" (Sorry about the google search link. Apple and Google go out of their way to hide the url when doing searches on Google from mobile Safari.) https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=046dc2c9c0fa6748&udm=2... This is what no one else can seem to understand. The iPad was created in Apple's labs before the iPhone…

>Apple and Google go out of their way to hide the url when doing searches on Google from mobile Safari.

What? It's only 2 clicks away. You can click the copy button after hitting the share button. /s

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Post by stonogo »

gcr wrote: post #73
gretch wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was at Meta (then facebook), people lived and died by the live demo creedo. Pitches can be spun, data is cherry picked. But the proof is always in the pudding. This is embarrassing for sure, but from the ashes of this failure we find the resolve to make the next version better.

why did they choose to air this live? For an internal team sure absolutely, but for public-facing work, prerecorded is the way to go

The same unwarranted sense of confidence that tells them this product is worth making tells them that they can easily pull off a live demo. This is called "culture fit"

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by spot »

jayrhynas wrote: post #66
klik99 wrote: post #39

I believe the wristband came from this acquisition: https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/23/20881032/facebook-ctrl-la... Insanely cool, and awesome to see a viable wave guide device. It's so cool that it might outweigh my reluctance to strap facebook to my face.

CTRL-Labs themselves acquired the wristband tech from North/Thalmic, who pivoted into smart glasses for a few years before being acquired by Google. > In an interesting twist, CTRL-Labs purchased a series of patents earlier this year around the Myo armband, a gesture and motion control device developed by North, formerly known as Thalmic Labs. The Myo armband measured electromyography, or EEG, to translate muscle act…

nope. the technology was invented by CTRL-labs, and at Meta after the acquisition.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09255-w

yes the Myo was a similar, earlier, and less capable technology also based on EMG sensing.

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Post by cflewis »

paxys wrote: post #9

I saw the keynote, and while everything about the glasses was more or less as expected, seeing Zuck easily navigate the interface and type 30 words per minute while barely moving his fingers was a true WTF moment. If they can actually make the neural interface work that well then Meta has won this round.

How does the finger thing work? What's he doing? I saw him tippy-tappy but it didn't seem like he's moving through some invisible keyboard.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by teleforce »

jayrhynas wrote: post #66
klik99 wrote: post #39

I believe the wristband came from this acquisition: https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/23/20881032/facebook-ctrl-la... Insanely cool, and awesome to see a viable wave guide device. It's so cool that it might outweigh my reluctance to strap facebook to my face.

CTRL-Labs themselves acquired the wristband tech from North/Thalmic, who pivoted into smart glasses for a few years before being acquired by Google. > In an interesting twist, CTRL-Labs purchased a series of patents earlier this year around the Myo armband, a gesture and motion control device developed by North, formerly known as Thalmic Labs. The Myo armband measured electromyography, or EEG, to translate muscle act…

> measured electromyography, or EEG

Should be EMG, but is it normal EMG or sEMG?

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by dylan604 »

jsheard wrote: post #35
barbazoo wrote: post #21

My neighbour is gonna buy this one as well and I bet it’s going to end up in the same junk drawer as the last one.

It seems like a pattern that Meta hardware usually sells relatively well, but then struggles with user retention. It happened with the Quest and so far it's happening with the glasses too. People like the idea of the products much more than the reality of actually using them. https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/3/23818462/meta-ray-ban-stor...

It's not so much the hardware, it's the lack of software to use with the hardware. Nobody wants to wait until real hardware exists and risk losing consumer interest, yet they risk losing consumer interest with these half baked products. Sibling comment claims a killer app, but there hasn't truly been a killer app that makes people willing to use the product all the time. The new wears off, and then the use just craters.
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