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ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by mrtesthah »

throwmeaway222 wrote: post #144
jjfoooo4 wrote: post #137

I expected Kimmel to have somehow criticized Kirk, a dubious enough reason to pull the show. But this isn’t even that. Comments quoted in stories assert that the shooter was MAGA - maybe that’s somewhat controversial, but it’s ludicrous to suggest it’s offensive. That paired with comments criticizing the Dear Leader were enough. This is a new low in corporate cowardice toward Trump bullying.

It's extremely relevant. The person grew up "conservative" and was radicalized to the left in college. The reason this is important is that it's a trend. If the trend isn't acknowledged on the left, then it will just continue.

I see nothing wrong with people acquiring a left-wing political lens as a result of their own independent thought process (which, by the way, has nothing to do with universities, regardless of what the right-wing talking points you're referencing say; the shooter went to a trade school).

And in any case, a significant majority of political violence is caused by right-wing extremists. Of course the DOJ just deleted that report because it was inconvenient to their narrative.

https://people.com/department-of-justice-quietly-deletes-stu...

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by afavour »

tptacek wrote: post #17

Keep in mind that Kimmel has been hinting about retiring for a couple years now, his contract was up in the air, the "late night television show" category is evaporating (if there's still even a Tonight Show in 10 years, it'll be purely for nostalgia), and this sends Kimmel out in a blaze of glory. I think it's too easy to sort of anthropomorphize these kinds of conflicts --- Kimmel's show has a large staff, and he's…

I don’t see why it would matter whether Kimmel has steered into this or not (which seems pretty unlikely to me anyway)

His comments were not a fireable offence. He can’t steer into something if there’s nothing to steer into.

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

pessimizer wrote: post #237
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #173

I am largely neutral on this particular assassination, as I knew almost nothing about Mr. Kirk prior to his departure (just name recognition & basic political associations). But I do think, after decades of reflection, that comedians are correct when they point out that stereotypical humor shouldn't be off limits to any performer (of any background/color), but is... e.g. Owen Benjamin, Chappelle, Seinfeld .

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I edited my above-comment to better incorporate multiple comedian's POV on off-color humor ("x-isms," to use PG's terminology)

>Where was the joke?

If any comedian's attempt at any "joke," however tactless, led to any two+ people sitting down and having discussion of real-world realities... then I think the jokester has exceled professionally (honestly I haven't seen this Kimmel clip; I always just remember him as black-face-guy from 90s Comedy Central™ — which was as appropriate/funny/accepted as Downey in Tropic Thunder).

So in this particular case, Kimmel continues his professionalism as Jester.

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Post by iamdelirium »

mrandish wrote: post #233

We really need to stop the cancelling of people for saying controversial, disagreeable and even deeply offensive things. I don't agree with what Kimmel said and I wouldn't have said it myself but it also wasn't outside the bounds of opinions which should be able to be expressed. If you're nodding along in agreement, then you should also know my long-term commitment to consistency in tolerating factually wrong, distas…

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Post by seanw444 »

andrewchambers wrote: post #220

I've seen a large number of comments online saying the shooter was a trump supporter - I don't really understand where that information comes from. I feel like this is the sort of thing a prediction market might be able sort out.

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Post by ceejayoz »

ProllyInfamous wrote: post #247
theoreticalmal wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who paid Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, or Gavrillo Princip? Assassination is a subset of murder, with political motives. It seems very accurate in this situation

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The Clintons are behind Lee Harvey Oswald?

What, as middle schoolers?

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Post by panarchy »

wnevets wrote: post #20

That free speech crowd has been very very quiet the last week

They're just going pull the "random leftists have individually boycotted people and media they don't agree with" (except they will call it cancel culture) card and do a false equivalency to people being removed for not being in line with the state.

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Post by justin66 »

paxys wrote: post #15
armenarmen wrote: post #12

The right, has for the past decade or so taken a moral high ground with regards to cancelation. Seems that now they've adopted a "turnaround is fair play" mentality.

The right is simply good at PR. People forget that they invented cancel culture. Dixie Chicks anyone?

> People forget that they invented cancel culture. Dixie Chicks anyone?

You can go a lot further back than that. McCarthyism was a powerful cancel culture and vestiges of that still manifest today. Linguistically, the weird and inexplicable way anything to the left of fascism in America can be described as "communism" if someone is in the mood to be pejorative is a vestige of McCarthy, or something even further back from the First Red Scare, I think.

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Post by andrewchambers »

seanw444 wrote: post #275
andrewchambers wrote: post #220

I've seen a large number of comments online saying the shooter was a trump supporter - I don't really understand where that information comes from. I feel like this is the sort of thing a prediction market might be able sort out.

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My point isn't really about what is correct or incorrect in this case.

My point is about making it so that you have to actively risk money to push the truth needle in the wrong direction.

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