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ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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The FCC doesn’t pay Kimmel.

ABC, who pays Kimmel, would be financially very, dis-served to have the FCC or IRS or any other big bit of government up their ass, even if it does ultimately come to nothing.

Are you saying that the government might seriously harass and damage a media company for speech they don't like? And this is normal?

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I expected Kimmel to have somehow criticized Kirk, a dubious enough reason to pull the show. But this isn’t even that. Comments quoted in stories assert that the shooter was MAGA - maybe that’s somewhat controversial, but it’s ludicrous to suggest it’s offensive. That paired with comments criticizing the Dear Leader were enough. This is a new low in corporate cowardice toward Trump bullying.

Stop criticizing large corporations as moral entities. They have no other incentives other than money. Corporations are amoral (not good or bad). Only money matters. South Park can go on because they make money. Talk-shows are already dying and cutting them is easy choice even under mild pressure. The value talk they use is PR aimed at stakeholders (customers, employees, government). No company has taken a stance whe…

>Stop criticizing large corporations as moral entities. They have no other incentives other than money. Corporations are amoral (not good or bad). Only money matters.

Not just corporations, every institution from the church to every silo in your government to big nonprofits. The latter ones just have less measurable goals than profit, but they sociopathically seek their goals all the same. Beyond a certain scale organizations staffed by humans no longer act human.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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i get what you're saying but "the left" has basically zero political power in the united states. it never has. the closest we ever were was with FDR but i wouldn't consider a leader who operated concentration camps to be leftist by any stretch. we have a right wing and then a righter wing. bernie sanders is an anomaly, elizabeth warren is just left of center, and i can't think of too many other current politicians at…

...but i wouldn't consider a leader who operated concentration camps to be leftist by any stretch. And that's my cue to take yet another hit to my HN karma by asking, incredulously, "WTF are they teaching kids in school these days?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_America...

> During World War II, the United States forcibly relocated and incarcerated about 120,000 people of Japanese descent in ten concentration camps operated by the War Relocation Authority (WRA), mostly in the western interior of the country.

> During World War II, the camps were referred to both as relocation centers and concentration camps by government officials and in the press. Roosevelt himself referred to the camps as concentration camps on different occasions, including at a press conference held on October 20, 1942.

> In a 1961 interview, Harry S. Truman stated "They were concentration camps. They called it relocation but they put them in concentration camps, and I was against it. We were in a period of emergency, but it was still the wrong thing to do."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp

> Not to be confused with Extermination camp. A concentration camp is a prison or other facility used for the internment of political prisoners or politically targeted demographics, such as members of national or ethnic minority groups, on the grounds of national security, or for exploitation or punishment.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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> The ABC late-night host’s remarks constituted “the sickest conduct possible,” FCC chair Brendan Carr told right-wing podcaster Benny Johnson on Wednesday. Carr suggested his FCC could move to revoke ABC affiliate licenses as a way to force Disney to punish Kimmel. Regardless of what Kimmel said and if you think it was appropriate or not, we are seeing this administration use this as an opportunity to trample on the…

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Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Call me old fashioned, but I do expect for things like this not to happen in an open, democratic society whose founding document explicitly declares free speech to be sacrosanct. Update: "things like this" is meant to refer to the act of suspending Kimmel's show in response to the specific, rather innocuous, comments he made in his monologue

Which "this" are you referring to, the shooting, the endorsement of it or the firing over the endorsement of it? All of them are bad but the ones on the left end of the sentence are more bad than the ones on the right. Edit: The endorsements and firings broadly speaking, not regards to anything specific to Kimmel or ABC

Kimmel in no way endorsed the shooting

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The desire to not catch a (arguably deserved in some individual cases) bullet is an incredibly unifying sentiment on both sides of the isle and between the elected officials, the permanent bureaucracy and those aspiring to be either. It just baffles me that people think they can say things that "turn up the heat" or "endorse the furtherance of current trends" and not expect some part of system (including big companie…

> It just baffles me that people think they can say things that "turn up the heat"

I don't think that's an accurate characterization of his statements, even if what he did say was factually inaccurate.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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The FCC doesn’t pay Kimmel.

ABC, who pays Kimmel, would be financially very, dis-served to have the FCC or IRS or any other big bit of government up their ass, even if it does ultimately come to nothing.

Maybe ABC could stand up for freedom of speech instead of caving to a wannabe dictator?

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What I had believed, as an outsider to the US, was that US Federal politicians directly leveraging business decisions over a speech issue was explicitly unconstitutional. What I've come to realise is that few are prepared to bell the cat and prosecute unconstitutional behaviour.

We’re trying but the lower courts keep getting overruled by a corrupt Supreme Court.

It's a tough one, even without the Supreme Court issues, Kimmel alone is circumstantial at best; sure, the current POTUS is on record saying that Kimmel would be next to get the chop, but that proves nothing- any actual action taken would, I assume, be just pressure with no paper trail - classic intimidation leverage made famous by Scorsese.
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