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ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by potato3732842 »

bix6 wrote: post #135
potato3732842 wrote: post #128

The desire to not catch a (arguably deserved in some individual cases) bullet is an incredibly unifying sentiment on both sides of the isle and between the elected officials, the permanent bureaucracy and those aspiring to be either. It just baffles me that people think they can say things that "turn up the heat" or "endorse the furtherance of current trends" and not expect some part of system (including big companie…

The FCC doesn’t pay Kimmel.

ABC, who pays Kimmel, would be financially very, dis-served to have the FCC or IRS or any other big bit of government up their ass, even if it does ultimately come to nothing.

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Post by thatswrong0 »

armenarmen wrote: post #30
wrs wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turns out they're not all that big on "free speech" in general! Who knew.

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The FCC chairman threatened to pull ABC's broadcast license over Kimmel's comments. That's pretty much a direct 1st amendment violation.

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Post by throwmeaway222 »

jjfoooo4 wrote: post #137

I expected Kimmel to have somehow criticized Kirk, a dubious enough reason to pull the show. But this isn’t even that. Comments quoted in stories assert that the shooter was MAGA - maybe that’s somewhat controversial, but it’s ludicrous to suggest it’s offensive. That paired with comments criticizing the Dear Leader were enough. This is a new low in corporate cowardice toward Trump bullying.

It's extremely relevant. The person grew up "conservative" and was radicalized to the left in college. The reason this is important is that it's a trend. If the trend isn't acknowledged on the left, then it will just continue.

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Post by appreciatorBus »

VikingCoder wrote: post #73
sky2224 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I'd also appreciate a discussion on something like this, it's heavily political and HN isn't really the place for that unless it's directly related to tech.

Censorship affects everyone. Like, literally, your ability to understand the world around you. If that's not "tech," then I think folks need to broaden their perspective.

There are plenty places that aren’t HN to discuss politics.

Since everything is connected to everything else, by your logic, every discussion forum must discuss everything.

If you prefer more open-ended discussions about everything, I would suggest trying Twitter or Bluesky .

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Post by Gigachad »

vFunct wrote: post #39

What's the end game of these right-wing legacy media? The median age of TV viewers is like 65. How do they expect to maintain any viewership once all the elderly people die off? The only thing people watch anymore are live sports and local news, and even those are showing signs of declining.

It’s not the company behind this. The federal government forced them to do this. All media is being taken over by the state.

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Post by nabla9 »

jjfoooo4 wrote: post #137

I expected Kimmel to have somehow criticized Kirk, a dubious enough reason to pull the show. But this isn’t even that. Comments quoted in stories assert that the shooter was MAGA - maybe that’s somewhat controversial, but it’s ludicrous to suggest it’s offensive. That paired with comments criticizing the Dear Leader were enough. This is a new low in corporate cowardice toward Trump bullying.

Stop criticizing large corporations as moral entities. They have no other incentives other than money. Corporations are amoral (not good or bad). Only money matters.

South Park can go on because they make money. Talk-shows are already dying and cutting them is easy choice even under mild pressure.

The value talk they use is PR aimed at stakeholders (customers, employees, government). No company has taken a stance where they willingly accept net negative returns if they have other choice.

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Post by afavour »

potato3732842 wrote: post #128

The desire to not catch a (arguably deserved in some individual cases) bullet is an incredibly unifying sentiment on both sides of the isle and between the elected officials, the permanent bureaucracy and those aspiring to be either. It just baffles me that people think they can say things that "turn up the heat" or "endorse the furtherance of current trends" and not expect some part of system (including big companie…

Kimmel didn’t even criticise Kirk. He’s a mainstream TV comedian and nothing he said “turned up the heat”.

The reality is very simple: Nexstar wants federal approval for a merger. They know engaging in this censorship increases the likelihood of their merger being approved. So you’re exactly as jaded as you should be, just with the wrong target.

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Post by potato3732842 »

davesque wrote: post #140
potato3732842 wrote: post #128

The desire to not catch a (arguably deserved in some individual cases) bullet is an incredibly unifying sentiment on both sides of the isle and between the elected officials, the permanent bureaucracy and those aspiring to be either. It just baffles me that people think they can say things that "turn up the heat" or "endorse the furtherance of current trends" and not expect some part of system (including big companie…

Call me old fashioned, but I do expect for things like this not to happen in an open, democratic society whose founding document explicitly declares free speech to be sacrosanct. Update: "things like this" is meant to refer to the act of suspending Kimmel's show in response to the specific, rather innocuous, comments he made in his monologue

Which "this" are you referring to, the shooting, the endorsement of it or the firing over the endorsement of it?

All of them are bad but the ones on the left end of the sentence are more bad than the ones on the right.

Edit: The endorsements and firings broadly speaking, not regards to anything specific to Kimmel or ABC

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Post by CamperBob2 »

GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #104
tptacek wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one of those interminable sprawling message board arguments that has a really simple resolution nobody wants to accept, which is that commitment to free expression and "right/left" are mostly orthogonal, and both the right and the left weaponize commitment to free expression when it makes sense for them to.

i get what you're saying but "the left" has basically zero political power in the united states. it never has. the closest we ever were was with FDR but i wouldn't consider a leader who operated concentration camps to be leftist by any stretch. we have a right wing and then a righter wing. bernie sanders is an anomaly, elizabeth warren is just left of center, and i can't think of too many other current politicians at…

...but i wouldn't consider a leader who operated concentration camps to be leftist by any stretch.

And that's my cue to take yet another hit to my HN karma by asking, incredulously, "WTF are they teaching kids in school these days?"

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