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Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by rat87 » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 11:34 PM UTC

armenarmen wrote: post #30

wrs wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turns out they're not all that big on "free speech" in general! Who knew.

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The right was also calling to cancel people back then. They've just gotten more flagrant now. I'm not sure you can even call it hypocrisy since they don't even pretend to have principles besides whatever Trump wants. The government is blackmailing private companies now. I don't watch Kimmel but looking up stories his comments didn't seem at all offensive, please tell me what I missed.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by lawlessone » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 11:34 PM UTC

throwawaylaptop wrote: post #59

jimmydoe wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so far it seems the kid is friendly to trans, and loves guns, which fits neither lefty or maga labels. rushing to conclusion seems peak american idiocracy

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Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by VikingCoder » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 11:34 PM UTC

sky2224 wrote: post #63

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #51

Why has this been flagged?

As much as I'd also appreciate a discussion on something like this, it's heavily political and HN isn't really the place for that unless it's directly related to tech.

Censorship affects everyone.

Like, literally, your ability to understand the world around you.

If that's not "tech," then I think folks need to broaden their perspective.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by PaulHoule » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 11:35 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #31

armenarmen wrote: post #12

The right, has for the past decade or so taken a moral high ground with regards to cancelation. Seems that now they've adopted a "turnaround is fair play" mentality.

> The right, has for the past decade or so taken a moral high ground with regards to cancelation. Have you been in a coma for that decade?

I first saw a moral panic over ‘cancel culture’ circa 2013 from The Atlantic and the opinion page of the New York Times. (The first because it’s demo is the naive liberal and pearl clutching parents of college students and the second because folks like Brooks and Blow don’t want to be canceled themselves). It was until 2017 or so that conservatives noticed the phenomenon and started to talk about it in The National Review and such.

Ezra Klein, who I generally respect, said he got more crap over

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/opinion/charlie-kirk-assa...

than anything else he’s written but I think it was unfortunate that he chose the words because Kirk, among other things, promoted Trump’s lies about the 2000 election, bussed people to the Jan 6 riot, and had a hit list of professors he wanted to punish just like David Horowitz, dad of the Andressen-Horowitz Horowitz. That bit about “prove me wrong” was always disingenuous, it would fool the pearl clutching parents who read The Atlantic and the likes of Ezra Klein. Probably the most harmful thing about illiberal campus leftists is that they allowed illiberal rightists to appear to take the high ground.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by throwawa14223 » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 11:35 PM UTC

armenarmen wrote: post #12

The right, has for the past decade or so taken a moral high ground with regards to cancelation. Seems that now they've adopted a "turnaround is fair play" mentality.

I believe they changed when the government put pressure on social media during COVID. I think that caused a huge attitude shift among the right.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by rat87 » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 11:36 PM UTC

armenarmen wrote: post #12

The right, has for the past decade or so taken a moral high ground with regards to cancelation. Seems that now they've adopted a "turnaround is fair play" mentality.

They have not in any sense taken any high ground

The right has consistently tried to cancel people, has tried to censor people, has complained/played the refs about moderation saying their rights to say racist stuff was being infringed even when it was a moderation decision by a private company not the government

And then under Trump it's only gotten worse/more divorced from any principles

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by neom » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 11:36 PM UTC

VikingCoder wrote: post #73

sky2224 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I'd also appreciate a discussion on something like this, it's heavily political and HN isn't really the place for that unless it's directly related to tech.

Censorship affects everyone. Like, literally, your ability to understand the world around you. If that's not "tech," then I think folks need to broaden their perspective.

A good read: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45267159

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by iamdelirium » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 11:37 PM UTC

Sorry but the fact is a government agency (the FCC) pushed for this. This is a completely different thing than Disney deciding to do it on its own.

This is a 1st amendment issue.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by rolph » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 11:38 PM UTC

Computer0 wrote: post #52

Wow, I will have to check out his comments. All around me everyone is becoming more anonymous on social media, if not deleting it. It is fascinating to see the cultural reverberations of this motivated killing!

before attributing all to one event, consider the straw that broke the camels back.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by kulahan » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 11:38 PM UTC

epicureanideal wrote: post #19

armenarmen wrote: post #12

The right, has for the past decade or so taken a moral high ground with regards to cancelation. Seems that now they've adopted a "turnaround is fair play" mentality.

Is there some way the two sides could reliably arrive at a truce on the issue of cancellation?

I don’t think they need to. I think they just need to shake hands and say it’s okay to have a different opinion.

There have been a number of studies around the world, plus some real world examples (Utah gubernatorial 2020) where showing your opponents in a sympathetic light can make a big difference in reductions in political polarization.

It’s especially effective when signaled by the “elite”: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/00323217241300...

Edit: I hear plenty of stories of people abandoning family members over a difference of political opinion. My MIL won’t talk to a niece of hers after the niece made the same decision. I won’t go so far as to say that’s never warranted, but it seems these days that it’s happening a lot more.

To me, this implies we’re losing acceptability of political “others”.