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U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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#161

The most terrifying thing is there will be a trump-government representative in the governing body. We are truly looking at 1984 as a blueprint not a warning.

Political officers on ships was quite normal in the cold war, makes sense to have political officers in companies too.

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#162

So Larry Ellison just took over Paramount group which is now looking to bid for Warner Brothers and CNN. And now Ellison is going to take over TikTok. Paramount(being run by Larry Ellison's son) is looking to install the pro-israel-propagandist who has variously masqueraded as a liberal, a conservative and anti-woke free-speech champion, Bari Weiss[1] as CBS's editor-in-chief or co-president[2]. It also bears mention…

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#163

Just don't use it. Regardless of who is in control, Tiktok is basically an app designed by some of the smartest minds in the world to get you addicted. I already observed the brainrot similar apps caused to my parents, and for hell I won't allow my kid to touch it whenever I have control. Whether you "learned" anything from it is irrelevant too -- you can always learn better with books, classes, and heck even YouTube…

Obviously someone not using it themselves mitigates only a fraction of the harm of these things.

If everyone around your kids is brainrotted or subject to destructive propaganda, your kids suffer too.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#164

So Larry Ellison just took over Paramount group which is now looking to bid for Warner Brothers and CNN. And now Ellison is going to take over TikTok. Paramount(being run by Larry Ellison's son) is looking to install the pro-israel-propagandist who has variously masqueraded as a liberal, a conservative and anti-woke free-speech champion, Bari Weiss[1] as CBS's editor-in-chief or co-president[2]. It also bears mention…

Trying to be neutral. Did we consider China's relationship with Palestine? Were we ok with American minds being swayed by a foreign country?

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#165

Just don't use it. Regardless of who is in control, Tiktok is basically an app designed by some of the smartest minds in the world to get you addicted. I already observed the brainrot similar apps caused to my parents, and for hell I won't allow my kid to touch it whenever I have control. Whether you "learned" anything from it is irrelevant too -- you can always learn better with books, classes, and heck even YouTube…

Just "not using it" doesn't ward off from the deleterious societal consequences of such a powerful propaganda tool simply existing.

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#166

Oracle owning TikTok is one of the most unintentionally funny things to ever happen.

> Oracle owning TikTok is one of the most unintentionally funny things to ever happen. I'm hopeful. With any luck they'll ruin TikTok and it will die, a satisfying result.

The "good" news is that they will only own the US operations, with the ROTW continuing to be operated by ByteDance. So if they diverge too far from the original product we can expect to see a discussion about life behind the Great Firewall of America.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#167

Just don't use it. Regardless of who is in control, Tiktok is basically an app designed by some of the smartest minds in the world to get you addicted. I already observed the brainrot similar apps caused to my parents, and for hell I won't allow my kid to touch it whenever I have control. Whether you "learned" anything from it is irrelevant too -- you can always learn better with books, classes, and heck even YouTube…

Obviously someone not using it themselves mitigates only a fraction of the harm of these things. If everyone around your kids is brainrotted or subject to destructive propaganda, your kids suffer too.

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Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#168

This seems like a premature reaction. The Trump administration has been known to anchor to extreme positions as a negotiation tactic. Given the complexity of forced platform migrations (user data transfer, algorithm preservation, creator monetization continuity), and the technical/legal hurdles involved, I suspect we're seeing opening moves in a broader negotiation rather than a final outcome. Let's all be patient an…

The thing is there is a law directing that TikTok be sold or shut down. Trump has already illegally given extensions several times.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

#169
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> one member designated by the US government. Why does the board of TikTok need a gov member? Is Meta going to get a gov chaperone too? And Oracle surely needs one as well. Is the gov putting out a call for board member civil servants? Like where does this person even come from?

It's the political komissar, here to make sure nothing too critical of the current administration is allowed on the platform.
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